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    More fascism from the left...


    Masked anarchists violently rout right-wing demonstrators in Berkeley

    An army of anarchists in black clothing and masks routed a small group of right-wing demonstrators who had gathered in a Berkeley park Sunday to rail against the city’s famed progressive politics, driving them out — sometimes violently — while overwhelming a huge contingent of police officers.

    Hundreds of officers tried to maintain calm in and around Martin Luther King Jr. Civic Center Park before the 1 p.m. “No to Marxism in Berkeley” rally, putting up barricades, searching bags and confiscating sticks, masks, pepper spray and even water bottles. The goal was to head off the type of clashes that sprang from similar rallies in the city earlier this year.

    But once again, counterdemonstrators frustrated efforts by police, who numbered about 400. As the crowd swelled to several times that size, officers stepped aside and allowed hundreds of people angered by the presence of the right-wing rally to climb over the barriers into the park, said Officer Jennifer Coats, a spokeswoman for Berkeley police.

    http://www.sfgate.com/bayarea/articl...g-12041287.php
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    Quote Originally Posted by seer View Post
    More fascism from the left...
    When will the democrats condemn these hate groups?

    And when will the cops do their jobs instead of running away?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sparko View Post
    When will the democrats condemn these hate groups?

    And when will the cops do their jobs instead of running away?
    We are talking Berkeley here . . .
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    So it sounds like 40,000 people protested a rally advocating free speech and denouncing violence.

    And the city kept everyone out of earshot, preventing even any press or anyone who wanted to hear the speeches from hearing. The Police Commissioner said it was a positive good that people who wanted to hear were prevented from hearing the message that the city doesn't like. And the Mayor said, “Boston does not want you here, Boston rejects your message.”

    It follows that these representatives of the city government are in favor of force against speech, and that anyone who says otherwise is not welcome in Boston. (Or, that they didn't even know what organization or message they were opposing. Or that they did know and had ulterior motives for manufacturing an enemy.)


    Also at the San Francisco protests that took place over the weekend, they too were protesting free speech. They were protesting a press conference (that had been scheduled before Charlottesville) by a group who say their goal is to promote peace, love, and unity; support free speech and the First Amendment; and "using the power of love and prayer" to fight corruption. And who have denounced white supremacists with a “F*** white supremacists!" and "Don't show up, you're not welcome." Protesters succeeded in getting the group to move their press conference outside of San Francisco.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joel View Post
    So it sounds like 40,000 people protested a rally advocating free speech and denouncing violence.

    And the city kept everyone out of earshot, preventing even any press or anyone who wanted to hear the speeches from hearing. The Police Commissioner said it was a positive good that people who wanted to hear were prevented from hearing the message that the city doesn't like. And the Mayor said, “Boston does not want you here, Boston rejects your message.”

    It follows that these representatives of the city government are in favor of force against speech, and that anyone who says otherwise is not welcome in Boston. (Or, that they didn't even know what organization or message they were opposing. Or that they did know and had ulterior motives for manufacturing an enemy.)


    Also at the San Francisco protests that took place over the weekend, they too were protesting free speech. They were protesting a press conference (that had been scheduled before Charlottesville) by a group who say their goal is to promote peace, love, and unity; support free speech and the First Amendment; and "using the power of love and prayer" to fight corruption. And who have denounced white supremacists with a “F*** white supremacists!" and "Don't show up, you're not welcome." Protesters succeeded in getting the group to move their press conference outside of San Francisco.
    Do they realize the irony of them protesting free speech?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sparko View Post
    Do they realize the irony of them protesting free speech?
    Best case scenario is that they had no clue what organization and message they were protesting, but were a mindless anti-nazi mob incited (apart from evidence) by a false cry of "Nazi!". Which is also disturbing.
    It seems the Boston one was incited by a false CNN story, and the San Francisco one was incited by Nancy Pelosi.

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    Let's see how the peaceful left acts...


    Berkeley braces for visit by right-wing speaker Ben Shapiro

    BERKELEY, Calif. (AP) -- The University of California, Berkeley will seal off large parts of its campus like a fortress with a closed perimeter and a "very large" visible police presence Thursday, when the birthplace of America's free speech movement faces its next potential clashes.

    City and campus authorities anticipate demonstrations at a speech by conservative commentator Ben Shapiro, a former Breitbart editor, and are preparing for possible violence with a variety of new strategies and tightened security.

    For the first time in two decades, officers will be armed with pepper spray after the city council modified a 1997 ban at an emergency meeting this week.

    http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories...09-13-19-15-15
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    Quote Originally Posted by siam View Post
    It would be in America. Just as communist speech is free speech.
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    Quote Originally Posted by seer View Post
    Let's see how the peaceful left acts...
    The police just need to set up an antifa trap. Lure them in with a fake speech, and have undercover cops all over the crowd. When they attack, they are all arrested.

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