Majority of Americans want Confederate statues to remain...

[lilpixieofterror]

Well, so you've been taught to believe by the greedy, fat cat, sociopathic, talking heads, that you listen to.

And yet empirical results speak for themselves. Trillions flushed into anti poverty programs and yet the poverty rate remains almost the same. It's almost as if giving government tons of money only manages to make members of the government and rich donators even richer. Imagine that...

[Psychic Missile]

And liberal programs are a big factor as to why there is so much poverty and resultant crime.

Plenty of countries with even more liberal programs than ours have less poverty and less crime. Try again.

[Bill the Cat]

Plenty of countries with even more liberal programs than ours have less poverty and less crime. Try again.

And others like that have much higher poverty rates.

[Psychic Missile]

And others like that have much higher poverty rates.

Such as?

[Sparko]

Well, so you've been taught to believe by the greedy, fat cat, sociopathic, talking heads, that you listen to.

LOL, more irony from "Liberal Talking Points" JimL.

[Sparko]

Plenty of countries with even more liberal programs than ours have less poverty and less crime. Try again.

The problem is that the liberal agenda and social programs breed a generation of entitlement babies who think they are owed everything. When they can't get everything handed to them, they decide to take it. Usually from each other because they are convenient. That is why you have gangs and thugs in inner cities. Much easier to steal from thy neighbor than get a job. It's not just blacks either.

[Bill the Cat]

Such as?

http://nzccss.org.nz/work/poverty/fa...a-new-zealand/

There are around 622,000 people in poverty in this country or one in seven households, including around 230,000 children.

[RumTumTugger]

http://nzccss.org.nz/work/poverty/fa...a-new-zealand/

There are around 622,000 people in poverty in this country or one in seven households, including around 230,000 children.

interesting.

[Psychic Missile]

The problem is that the liberal agenda and social programs breed a generation of entitlement babies who think they are owed everything. When they can't get everything handed to them, they decide to take it. Usually from each other because they are convenient. That is why you have gangs and thugs in inner cities. Much easier to steal from thy neighbor than get a job. It's not just blacks either.

With what evidence do you make a connection between social programs and gang violence, taking into account less gang violence in other countries with more robust social programs?

[Psychic Missile]

http://nzccss.org.nz/work/poverty/fa...a-new-zealand/

There are around 622,000 people in poverty in this country or one in seven households, including around 230,000 children.

Granted their poverty problem is different from ours, but your link gives the rate as 14% as of 2013, while the US poverty rate is 13.5% as of 2015.

[seer]

Food for thought:

A review of the empirical evidence in the professional literature of the social sciences gives policymakers an insight into the root causes of crime. Consider, for instance:

Over the past thirty years, the rise in violent crime parallels the rise in families abandoned by fathers.
High-crime neighborhoods are characterized by high concentrations of families abandoned by fathers.
State-by-state analysis by Heritage scholars indicates that a 10 percent increase in the percentage of children living in single-parent homes leads typically to a 17 percent increase in juvenile crime.
The rate of violent teenage crime corresponds with the number of families abandoned by fathers.
The type of aggression and hostility demonstrated by a future criminal often is foreshadowed in unusual aggressiveness as early as age five or six.
The future criminal tends to be an individual rejected by other children as early as the first grade who goes on to form his own group of friends, often the future delinquent gang.
On the other hand:

Neighborhoods with a high degree of religious practice are not high-crime neighborhoods.
Even in high-crime inner-city neighborhoods, well over 90 percent of children from safe, stable homes do not become delinquents. By contrast only 10 percent of children from unsafe, unstable homes in these neighborhoods avoid crime.
Criminals capable of sustaining marriage gradually move away from a life of crime after they get married.
The mother's strong affectionate attachment to her child is the child's best buffer against a life of crime.
The father's authority and involvement in raising his children are also a great buffer against a life of crime.

http://www.heritage.org/crime-and-ju...age-family-and

And:

The Journal of Research in Crime and Delinquency reports that the most reliable indicator of violent crime in a community is the proportion of fatherless families.

Fathers typically offer economic stability, a role model for boys, greater household security, and reduced stress for mothers. This is especially true for families with adolescent boys, the most crime-prone cohort. Children from single-parent families are more prone than children from two-parent families to use drugs, be gang members, be expelled from school, be committed to reform institutions, and become juvenile murderers.

https://www.ncjrs.gov/App/Publicatio...aspx?ID=167327

[Sparko]

With what evidence do you make a connection between social programs and gang violence, taking into account less gang violence in other countries with more robust social programs?

Well, let's see, a lot crime and violence centers around government housing areas where everyone is in slums, paid for by the government, and on welfare, and they regularly get victimized by their own people and the kids end up joining gangs. You don't see that much in other poor areas of the country.

[Psychic Missile]

Well, let's see, a lot crime and violence centers around government housing areas where everyone is in slums, paid for by the government, and on welfare, and they regularly get victimized by their own people and the kids end up joining gangs. You don't see that much in other poor areas of the country.

We know that there is a higher crime rate in higher populated areas. We know that poorer people experience more crime than richer people. Those stats alone explain your phenomenon. The welfare variable just doesn't make sense when we consider other countries.

[seer]

We know that there is a higher crime rate in higher populated areas. We know that poorer people experience more crime than richer people. Those stats alone explain your phenomenon. The welfare variable just doesn't make sense when we consider other countries.

And as my last post pointed out crime, in this country, correlates with fatherless homes.

[Sparko]

We know that there is a higher crime rate in higher populated areas. We know that poorer people experience more crime than richer people. Those stats alone explain your phenomenon. The welfare variable just doesn't make sense when we consider other countries.

There is less crime in other areas of this country too, like the poor in appalachia which I already mentioned. The difference in the inner city is all of the social programs being concentrated in one area. While you might have welfare in appalachia, you don't typically have the government concentrating people in slums, for example.

The inner city slums are a direct result of social programs by our government. They concentrate poor people in a small area, give them welfare to make them not work and have a lot of free time on their hands, give them affirmative action programs to make them feel entitled to special treatment, while being surrounded and bombarded by all the nice stuff they can't afford, and so what do they do? They decide they deserve that stuff, so they steal from their neighbors or sell them drugs to get enough money to get the things they can't afford.