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Originally posted by Tassman View PostMore to the point you have not justified your oft repeated assertion that liberal welfare schemes cause crime in America, when in fact the opposite is true in other Western countries with much broader welfare safety nets.Micah 6:8 He has told you, O man, what is good; and what does the LORD require of you but to do justice, and to love kindness, and to walk humbly with your God?
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Originally posted by Tassman View PostMore to the point you have not justified your oft repeated assertion that liberal welfare schemes cause crime in America, when in fact the opposite is true in other Western countries with much broader welfare safety nets.
Why should any of us "justify" a straw man view you set up?
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Originally posted by Sparko View PostYour reading comprehension is as bad as Psychic Missile's.
Why should any of us "justify" a straw man view you set up?That's what
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Without a clear-cut definition of sin, morality becomes a mere argument over the best way to train animals
- Manya the Holy Szin (The Quintara Marathon)
I may not be as old as dirt, but me and dirt are starting to have an awful lot in common
- Stephen R. Donaldson
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Originally posted by Sparko View PostI never said welfare causes crime. In fact I gave an example where people in appalachia get welfare and don't have crime.
See? you can't even seem to even get what I said right and want me to defend things I never said. Not worth my time PM.
"The inner city slums are a direct result of social programs by our government. They concentrate poor people in a small area, give them welfare to make them not work and have a lot of free time on their hands, give them affirmative action programs to make them feel entitled to special treatment, while being surrounded and bombarded by all the nice stuff they can't afford, and so what do they do? They decide they deserve that stuff, so they steal from their neighbors or sell them drugs to get enough money to get the things they can't afford. "
You've been arguing that crime in cities (specifically gang-related crime and theft) is the result of high-density housing and welfare. Are you saying you now disavow that stance? That's a quick turnaround. Glad I was able to enlighten you.
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Originally posted by Psychic Missile View Post"The problem is that the liberal agenda and social programs breed a generation of entitlement babies who think they are owed everything. When they can't get everything handed to them, they decide to take it. Usually from each other because they are convenient. That is why you have gangs and thugs in inner cities."
"The inner city slums are a direct result of social programs by our government. They concentrate poor people in a small area, give them welfare to make them not work and have a lot of free time on their hands, give them affirmative action programs to make them feel entitled to special treatment, while being surrounded and bombarded by all the nice stuff they can't afford, and so what do they do? They decide they deserve that stuff, so they steal from their neighbors or sell them drugs to get enough money to get the things they can't afford. "
You've been arguing that crime in cities (specifically gang-related crime and theft) is the result of high-density housing and welfare. Are you saying you now disavow that stance? That's a quick turnaround. Glad I was able to enlighten you.Last edited by Sparko; 09-11-2017, 08:50 AM.
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Originally posted by Sparko View PostLike I said, you are not worth debating with since you seem to have a reading comprehension problem. Nowhere did I say that welfare is the cause of crime. It appears that burning a straw man is the only way you can try to "win" here, but you are only embarrassing your self and making yourself look dishonest and moronic.
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Originally posted by Psychic Missile View PostSocial programs lead to people thinking they are owed everything and when they can't get it they take it resulting in gangs in inner cities. Social programs result in gang-related crime. It's clear as day what you said. A real man either stands by his convictions or admits when he's wrong.
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Originally posted by Psychic Missile View PostYou're free to show how what you said isn't what you said. I certainly wouldn't want people to think I believe something I actually don't. I guess that's one of many differences between you and I.
Here let me try:
You are obviously a commie atheist, you want to kill all capitalists and you support murdering babies and jews and you have said so many times. You are free to show you did not say those things.
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Originally posted by Sparko View PostWait, so now it is up to me to show that I didn't say what you accuse me of saying?
Here let me try:
You are obviously a commie atheist, you want to kill all capitalists and you support murdering babies and jews and you have said so many times. You are free to show you did not say those things.
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Originally posted by Psychic Missile View PostJedidiah had no problem doing this, and he did it preemptively, so why are you struggling?Micah 6:8 He has told you, O man, what is good; and what does the LORD require of you but to do justice, and to love kindness, and to walk humbly with your God?
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Originally posted by Psychic Missile View PostIf you don't think welfare causes crime, then I'm asking you to clarify your argument, because that's what it looks like to me. This is basic stuff. Jedidiah had no problem doing this, and he did it preemptively, so why are you struggling? I do it all the time too, so it's not like I'm placing some burden upon people who disagree with me. All I'm trying to do is get back to our discussion, which you coincidentally abandoned the moment I had evidence contrary to one of your points. That's not an unfamiliar happening, either.
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