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Originally posted by Starlight View PostDidn't you know that the 195 countries who signed the Paris Agreement are all liberals? The US and Syria are the only True Conservatives, obviously."The man from the yacht thought he was the first to find England; I thought I was the first to find Europe. I did try to found a heresy of my own; and when I had put the last touches to it, I discovered that it was orthodoxy."
GK Chesterton; Orthodoxy
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Originally posted by Chrawnus View Post“He felt that his whole life was a kind of dream and he sometimes wondered whose it was and whether they were enjoying it.” - Douglas Adams.
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Originally posted by JimL View PostYou're nothing if not a complete moron. Global warming isn't "liberalism" you jackass.
Every month of this year set a new record for the hottest monthly average global temperature in history. Fifteen of the 16 hottest years ever recorded have occurred in the 21st century. About the only place left on Earth where lawmakers openly and avidly deny the science of climate change is the U.S. Congress... more to the point, the Conservatives in the US Congress.
http://www.rollingstone.com/politics...arming-w448023“He felt that his whole life was a kind of dream and he sometimes wondered whose it was and whether they were enjoying it.” - Douglas Adams.
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Originally posted by Tassman View PostAccording to Adherents.com Finland ranks seventh in people that are either atheist, agnostic or non-believers in God.
Besides, the people who built up the country from the ruins of the Winter and Continuation War were by and large Christian, which Christian values and (Lutheran) work ethic. My generation (both religious and non-religious) have an overwhelmingly religious older generation (our grandparents and their parents) to thank for our high living standards.
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Originally posted by Chrawnus View PostThat doesn't mean Finland is atheistic, any more than it is Christian.
http://www.thechapmans.nl/news/Atheist.pdf
Besides, the people who built up the country from the ruins of the Winter and Continuation War were by and large Christian, which Christian values and (Lutheran) work ethic. My generation (both religious and non-religious) have an overwhelmingly religious older generation (our grandparents and their parents) to thank for our high living standards.
https://www.theguardian.com/society/...ges-fewer-jobs
But, one wouldn't expect such an enlightened approach in the punitive, still actively Christian society of the USA.Last edited by Tassman; 09-22-2017, 03:10 AM.“He felt that his whole life was a kind of dream and he sometimes wondered whose it was and whether they were enjoying it.” - Douglas Adams.
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Chrawnrus is the only Finn on TWeb, he is Christian, therefore 100% of Finland is Christian.
Also, everything good that ever happened in Finland is because of Christianity. Anything bad that ever happened there, was not due to Christianity.
Facts don't count Tass, you've been on this site long enough to know that by now."I hate him passionately", he's "a demonic force" - Tucker Carlson, in private, on Donald Trump
"Every line of serious work that I have written since 1936 has been written, directly or indirectly, against totalitarianism and for democratic socialism" - George Orwell
"[Capitalism] as it exists today is, in my opinion, the real source of evils. I am convinced there is only one way to eliminate these grave evils, namely through the establishment of a socialist economy" - Albert Einstein
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Originally posted by Starlight View PostChrawnrus is the only Finn on TWeb, he is Christian, therefore 100% of Finland is Christian.
Also, everything good that ever happened in Finland is because of Christianity. Anything bad that ever happened there, was not due to Christianity.
Facts don't count Tass, you've been on this site long enough to know that by now.
The argument that non-theistic Finland ranks so high in the IHDI (it’s 10th) must be due to its previous Christian heritage doesn’t make sense given that the still active Christian USA (and richest country in the world) only ranks 19th.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...y-adjusted_HDI“He felt that his whole life was a kind of dream and he sometimes wondered whose it was and whether they were enjoying it.” - Douglas Adams.
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Originally posted by JimL View PostThats how I put my foot in my mouth defending liberalism? Geesh Sparko, can you not even keep track of what your accusation was from one post to the next?Last edited by Sparko; 09-22-2017, 09:15 AM.
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Originally posted by Starlight View PostChrawnrus is the only Finn on TWeb, he is Christian, therefore 100% of Finland is Christian.
Also, everything good that ever happened in Finland is because of Christianity. Anything bad that ever happened there, was not due to Christianity.
Facts don't count Tass, you've been on this site long enough to know that by now.Enter the Church and wash away your sins. For here there is a hospital and not a court of law. Do not be ashamed to enter the Church; be ashamed when you sin, but not when you repent. – St. John Chrysostom
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Originally posted by Starlight View PostChrawnrus is the only Finn on TWeb, he is Christian, therefore 100% of Finland is Christian.
Also, everything good that ever happened in Finland is because of Christianity. Anything bad that ever happened there, was not due to Christianity.
Facts don't count Tass, you've been on this site long enough to know that by now....>>> Witty remark or snarky quote of another poster goes here <<<...
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Originally posted by Tassman View PostIt means that between between 28% and 60% are either Atheist/Agnostic/Nonbeliever in God
http://www.thechapmans.nl/news/Atheist.pdf
A much better/newer approximation of Finland's beliefs comes from polls conducted by the European Commission in 2010, which tells us that, of those surveryed, 33% beleived "there is a God", 42% believed "there is some sort of spirit or life force", 22% did not believe "there is any sort of spirit, God or life force", and 3% didn't know.
So yeah, no. Finland isn't an atheistic nation. If we grant that label to any particular nation it'd be France (40%) or the Czech Republic (37%). The Czech Republic makes sense seeing as it's a post-Communist nation, and I'd be surprised if France's numbers haven't turned around as that nation becomes more Muslim.
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Originally posted by Adrift View PostFor anyone not in the know, Tassman pulls out this same old biased survey at every available chance, even though we've shown its weaknesses in the past here and here.
A much better/newer approximation of Finland's beliefs comes from polls conducted by the European Commission in 2010, which tells us that, of those surveryed, 33% beleived "there is a God", 42% believed "there is some sort of spirit or life force", 22% did not believe "there is any sort of spirit, God or life force", and 3% didn't know.
So yeah, no. Finland isn't an atheistic nation. If we grant that label to any particular nation it'd be France (40%) or the Czech Republic (37%). The Czech Republic makes sense seeing as it's a post-Communist nation, and I'd be surprised if France's numbers haven't turned around as that nation becomes more Muslim.
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Originally posted by JimL View PostSo, 33% believe there is a god, that leaves 67% that don't believe, which makes them atheists regardless of how else you want to categorize them. That, I believe, pretty much confirms Tass's assertion. Good job Adrift.I DENOUNCE DONALD J. TRUMP AND ALL HIS IMMORAL ACTS.
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