Antifa are officially domestic terrorists

[seer]

They just had another one last night. Ben Shapiro spoke at Berkley last night.

It looks like Bannon, Coulter and Milo will be coming at the end of the month - perhaps together - how much will that cost!

[rogue06]

They just had another one last night. Ben Shapiro spoke at Berkley last night.

I've heard that the $600,000 figure is low and the real cost was closer to double that.

Funny how when a leftist speaks somewhere there isn't a huge price tag for additional security that comes along with it. The right really needs to get with the times.

[Tassman]

Actually, it does. Bloody union wars like Haymarket Square and Blair Mountain, violent campus groups like the Black Panthers and the Students for a Democratic Society, and violent anti-Government movements like the Weather Underground are all part of the fabric of US history.

Not really!

“The character of the American political system, which is hostile toward third parties has also been presented as a reason for the absence of a strong socialist party in the United States.

Political repression has also contributed to the weakness of the left in the United States. Many cities had red squads to monitor and disrupt leftist groups in response to labor unrest such as the Haymarket Riot. During World War II, the Smith Act made membership in revolutionary groups illegal. After the war, Senator Joseph McCarthy used the Smith Act to launch a crusade to purge communists from government and the media. In the 1960s the Federal Bureau of Investigation's COINTELPRO program monitored, infiltrated, disrupted and discredited radical groups in the U.S. In 2008, Maryland police were revealed to have added the names and personal information of death penalty opponents and anti-war protesters to a database which was intended to be used for tracking terrorists”.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Left

OTOH: It took Donald Trump two days to condemn the white supremacists who held the recent alt-right rally in Charlottesville that resulted in the death of civil rights activist Heather Heyer. The US president’s response? To sympathize that members of this group of white nationalists are “fine people”. But as Seth Myers noted, no one gets accidentally caught up in a white supremacist rally. Even though the march, as captured in photos, looks like a throwback to Ku Klux Klan rallies of the 1920s, hate groups are unfortunately not a thing of the past. Since 2014 their number across the country has risen 17% to a total of 917 groups in the US, according to a report from the Southern Poverty Law Center.

https://www.theguardian.com/books/20...history-racism

[rogue06]

OTOH: It took Donald Trump two days to condemn the white supremacists who held the recent alt-right rally in Charlottesville that resulted in the death of civil rights activist Heather Heyer.

Incorrect. He condemned their actions along with those of others immediately.

OTOH, liberal leaders still won't criticize much less condemn the violence perpetrated by antifa.

[rogue06]

Incorrect. He condemned their actions along with those of others immediately.

OTOH, liberal leaders still won't criticize much less condemn the violence perpetrated by antifa.

To be fair, I should have written "most liberal leaders still won't criticize much less condemn the violence perpetrated by antifa." A couple have but they are an anomaly.

[Tassman]

Incorrect. He condemned their actions along with those of others immediately.

“The president defended his response to the deadly violence in Charlottesville, Virginia, over the weekend. He reverted to his original argument blaming all sides, a position that drew bipartisan criticism.”

https://www.cnbc.com/2017/08/15/read...onference.html

OTOH, liberal leaders still won't criticize much less condemn the violence perpetrated by antifa.

This is not the case. Whilst the left is in sympathy with its aims, the anti-fascist movement often deploys violence in its protests, which is unacceptable. And to the extent it does they’re risking that it could seriously backfire.

[Bill the Cat]

Not really!

“The character of the American political system, which is hostile toward third parties has also been presented as a reason for the absence of a strong socialist party in the United States.

Political repression has also contributed to the weakness of the left in the United States. Many cities had red squads to monitor and disrupt leftist groups in response to labor unrest such as the Haymarket Riot. During World War II, the Smith Act made membership in revolutionary groups illegal. After the war, Senator Joseph McCarthy used the Smith Act to launch a crusade to purge communists from government and the media. In the 1960s the Federal Bureau of Investigation's COINTELPRO program monitored, infiltrated, disrupted and discredited radical groups in the U.S. In 2008, Maryland police were revealed to have added the names and personal information of death penalty opponents and anti-war protesters to a database which was intended to be used for tracking terrorists”.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Left

OTOH: It took Donald Trump two days to condemn the white supremacists who held the recent alt-right rally in Charlottesville that resulted in the death of civil rights activist Heather Heyer. The US president’s response? To sympathize that members of this group of white nationalists are “fine people”. But as Seth Myers noted, no one gets accidentally caught up in a white supremacist rally. Even though the march, as captured in photos, looks like a throwback to Ku Klux Klan rallies of the 1920s, hate groups are unfortunately not a thing of the past. Since 2014 their number across the country has risen 17% to a total of 917 groups in the US, according to a report from the Southern Poverty Law Center.

https://www.theguardian.com/books/20...history-racism

That the American socialists haven't been particularly strong historically in no way refutes the fact that the US has had several incidents of left wing violence.

[Bill the Cat]

“The president defended his response to the deadly violence in Charlottesville, Virginia, over the weekend. He reverted to his original argument blaming all sides, a position that drew bipartisan criticism.”

https://www.cnbc.com/2017/08/15/read...onference.html

We have bipartisan idiocy in Washington D.C.???

This is not the case. Whilst the left is in sympathy with its aims, the anti-fascist movement often deploys violence in its protests, which is unacceptable. And to the extent it does they’re risking that it could seriously backfire.

https://apps.npr.org/documents/docum...ll-Aug-17-2017

- Most white supremacists don’t claim any particular political party as their own, it turns out, because neither party tolerates the ideology. But when asked, three percent of Republicans and two percent of Democrats said they “mostly” agree with white supremacism. Since this is a survey with a margin of error of 2.9 percentage points, what that means is there are just as many white supremacists in the Democratic Party as in the Republican Party. Lest you think that four percent or three percent is still a large number, keep in mind that the same poll showed 4 percent of African Americans agreed with the racist movement. And seven percent of Latinos.

- Only 8 percent of Republicans agree with the beliefs of the “Alt-Right,” but 76 percent of Democrats agree with the beliefs of “Black Lives Matter.” In fact, Black Lives Matter is more popular with Republicans than the “Alt-Right” is. While only 8 percent of GOP members agree with the “Alt-Right,” a full 22 percent agree with “Black Lives Matter.”

- When asked about “Antifa,” as expected, only one percent of Republicans agreed with their beliefs, but an amazingly low 8 percent of Democrats agreed with them. Only among the “very liberal” do the beliefs of Antifa gain any traction – and there, the support is only 15 percent.

- Finally, we have the Ku Klux Klan. They’re universally despised. In the poll, only one percent of Republicans supported the racist group, while two percent of Democrats did.

[rogue06]

We have bipartisan idiocy in Washington D.C.???





https://apps.npr.org/documents/docum...ll-Aug-17-2017

- Most white supremacists don’t claim any particular political party as their own, it turns out, because neither party tolerates the ideology. But when asked, three percent of Republicans and two percent of Democrats said they “mostly” agree with white supremacism. Since this is a survey with a margin of error of 2.9 percentage points, what that means is there are just as many white supremacists in the Democratic Party as in the Republican Party. Lest you think that four percent or three percent is still a large number, keep in mind that the same poll showed 4 percent of African Americans agreed with the racist movement. And seven percent of Latinos.

- Only 8 percent of Republicans agree with the beliefs of the “Alt-Right,” but 76 percent of Democrats agree with the beliefs of “Black Lives Matter.” In fact, Black Lives Matter is more popular with Republicans than the “Alt-Right” is. While only 8 percent of GOP members agree with the “Alt-Right,” a full 22 percent agree with “Black Lives Matter.”

- When asked about “Antifa,” as expected, only one percent of Republicans agreed with their beliefs, but an amazingly low 8 percent of Democrats agreed with them. Only among the “very liberal” do the beliefs of Antifa gain any traction – and there, the support is only 15 percent.

- Finally, we have the Ku Klux Klan. They’re universally despised. In the poll, only one percent of Republicans supported the racist group, while two percent of Democrats did.

Yeah but NPR is a nothing but a bunch of psychopathic right... wing... Er, never mind.

[Zymologist]

You guys are treating Antifa as if the FBI considers them terrorists, or something.