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    Quote Originally Posted by Jedidiah View Post
    Free speech does not require wisdom or sensitivity, as you and your ilk prove over and over. I do notice you ignored my question(s).
    Of course books and movies should depict life and history honestly, that's what art is all about. But community living requires wisdom and sensitivity at times, especially re the blacks, given their past abuses in the Deep South. And an annual screening of a movie in Memphis about the "good ol' days" when the blacks knew their place does not fit into the category of wisdom and sensitivity in these troubled times.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mossrose View Post
    I can't believe how stupid the world has become.

    https://etcanada.com/news/250988/mem...sitive-racist/

    Tearing down Confederate monuments continues to be a hot-button issue in the American South, and the controversy has apparently spilled over from statues to films set in the era of the Civil War.

    This, in fact, is what led the Orpheum Theater in Memphis, Tennessee, to axe the 1940 Oscar-winner “Gone With the Wind” from next year’s summer schedule following a screening on Aug. 11, after which the theatre received “numerous comments” from the public, reports Entertainment Weekly.

    After meeting to discuss the issue, the theatre’s board agreed that showing the film classic starring Clark Gable and Vivien Leigh, which depicts the Civil War from a Confederate perspective, would be “insensitive” given the current political climate.

    “While title selections for the series are typically made in the spring of each year, the Orpheum has made this determination early in response to specific inquiries from patrons,” read a statement from The Orpheum Theatre Group. “The Orpheum appreciates feedback on its programming from all members of the mid-south community. The recent screening of ‘Gone With the Wind’ at the Orpheum on Friday, August 11, 2017, generated numerous comments. The Orpheum carefully reviewed all of them.”

    According to EW, the theatre’s Facebook page was deluged with comments about the film, with one commenter calling the film “racist” while another added, “slowly but surely, we will rid this community of all tributes to white supremacy.”


    I want to throw up now.
    Off the rug, please! I agree, and Alice in Wonderland rules apply here at the Mad Hatters Tea Party.

    The controversy of the 'Silent Sam' statue of a Confederate solder on the UNC campus was not placed by the will of the students, faculty, but a big donor 'Confederate Daddy War Bucks' Julian Carr owner of large tracks of land and many slaves, and a life long advocate and justification of slavery and racial supremacy, and bragged about whipping a black woman until clothing in shred and bleeding.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Leonhard View Post
    But if Disney produced Song of the South today, they'd deserve the backlash they'd get.
    I wouldn't know. Disney won't let me see the film.

    Quote Originally Posted by Terraceth View Post
    ...there's nothing in Song of the South that's as offensive as the Indians in Peter Pan (just as much of a kid's film as Song of the South was).
    Peter Pan is offensive to native Neverlanders. Or was it? Maybe it was an accurate portrayal of native Neverlanders.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shunyadragon View Post
    Off the rug, please! I agree, and Alice in Wonderland rules apply here at the Mad Hatters Tea Party.

    The controversy of the 'Silent Sam' statue of a Confederate solder on the UNC campus was not placed by the will of the students, faculty, but a big donor 'Confederate Daddy War Bucks' Julian Carr owner of large tracks of land and many slaves, and a life long advocate and justification of slavery and racial supremacy, and bragged about whipping a black woman until clothing in shred and bleeding.
    The same Julian Carr who donated the money to keep Duke University afloat with fellow tobacco plantation slave owner, and namesake of the uni, Washington Duke?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Tassman View Post
    Of course books and movies should depict life and history honestly, that's what art is all about. But community living requires wisdom and sensitivity at times, especially re the blacks, given their past abuses in the Deep South. And an annual screening of a movie in Memphis about the "good ol' days" when the blacks knew their place does not fit into the category of wisdom and sensitivity in these troubled times.
    That's racist.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Tassman View Post
    White nationalist leader David Duke thanked President Trump for blaming violence in Charlottesville, Va., on the "alt-left." Duke thanked Trump for his "honesty & courage" in a tweet.
    So what? Jesse Matthew voted for Obama.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Bill the Cat View Post
    That's racist.
    What's racist is the annual screening in the Deep South of a movie made in 1939 depicting blacks as second-class citizens. Why not alternate it with the 1935 Nazi propaganda film, 'Triumph of the Will' directed by Leni Riefenstahl. That would pack them in at the Memphis cinema.

    Quote Originally Posted by Bill the Cat View Post
    So what? Jesse Matthew voted for Obama.
    You know this do you? I wonder, did any criminals vote for Trump?
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    You're missing the point, dippy: you can appeal to "guilt by association" for literally anybody, - even Jesus associated with sinners - and the argument would be just as stupid.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bill the Cat View Post
    The same Julian Carr who donated the money to keep Duke University afloat with fellow tobacco plantation slave owner, and namesake of the uni, Washington Duke?
    Are you implying the wealthy can buy respectability?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tassman View Post
    What's racist is the annual screening in the Deep South of a movie made in 1939 depicting blacks as second-class citizens.
    While we are at it, let's ban The Wizard of Oz because it treats little people like side-show minstrels. Or Citizen Kane because Kane kept company with Hitler. Or The Maltese Falcon because it glorifies gun violence. Face it... You're an idiot.

    Why not alternate it with the 1935 Nazi propaganda film, 'Triumph of the Will' directed by Leni Riefenstahl. That would pack them in at the Memphis cinema.
    Because GWTW was not a propaganda film, you clod...



    You know this do you? I wonder, did any criminals vote for Trump?
    Yes. I know this. My niece's RA at UVA in her freshman year had met Matthew on a few occasions near campus. We talked about what her RA told her about him shortly after his arrest.

    The point being your side's guilt by association fallacy is ignorant.


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