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  • #2
    My has long been understanding of the Psalm 110:1 is that it is a prophecy of Christ being exulted in His humanity (a son of David) not of His deity. Those who deny His deity latch on to it as a supposed proof that Christ is not also God.
    . . . the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth; . . . -- Romans 1:16 KJV

    . . . that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures; And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures: . . . -- 1 Corinthians 15:3-4 KJV

    Whosoever believeth that Jesus is the Christ is born of God: . . . -- 1 John 5:1 KJV

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    • #3
      Originally posted by 37818 View Post
      My has long been understanding of the Psalm 110:1 is that it is a prophecy of Christ being exulted in His humanity (a son of David) not of His deity. Those who deny His deity latch on to it as a supposed proof that Christ is not also God.

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      • #4
        From Tektonics Apologetics Ministry.

        Source: Tektonics

        A considerable factor in Jesus' words is his comment that the Son of Man will be seated at the right hand of God. This is far more significant than our phrase, "right-hand man" would suggest. In a study of the matter in Blasphemy and Exaltation in Judaism, [203ff] Darrell Bock discusses parallels in Jewish texts and offers these conclusions:

        In the literature of Judaism of the period, "a proximate seating next to God" (i.e., in His presence) "might be considered for a privileged few, either a few universally acknowledged greats" (Moses, Adam, etc.) "of the past or the future eschatological figure of judgment" (the Son of Man of Daniel 7).
        But such honor "would never be contemplated by the leadership for a humble, rural Galilean, preacher like Jesus." Being seated in God's presence (like being seated during the National Anthem) by itself was audacious, though not necessarily a claim to divinity, until we add:

        The right hand reference, which means in this culture that Jesus is claiming to be seated by God "in a way that shares the highest honor with him." In other texts, the "right hand of God" is the place where the splendor and majesty of God comes from (Testament of Job), and the righteous are honored by being allowed to stand (not sit) at the right hand of God.
        In short, Jesus thereby claims the prerogatives of God with the combined honor of being seated at the right hand of God, and therefore asserts his divine identity.

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        Basically, this and other claims, like the Son of Man title, are claims to being divine. This particular claim seems to fall under the group of claims that could only be made, and be true, by someone divine. Like when Jesus goes and and forgives the paralyzed man.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Cerebrum123 View Post
          From Tektonics Apologetics Ministry.

          Source: Tektonics

          A considerable factor in Jesus' words is his comment that the Son of Man will be seated at the right hand of God. This is far more significant than our phrase, "right-hand man" would suggest. In a study of the matter in Blasphemy and Exaltation in Judaism, [203ff] Darrell Bock discusses parallels in Jewish texts and offers these conclusions:

          In the literature of Judaism of the period, "a proximate seating next to God" (i.e., in His presence) "might be considered for a privileged few, either a few universally acknowledged greats" (Moses, Adam, etc.) "of the past or the future eschatological figure of judgment" (the Son of Man of Daniel 7).
          But such honor "would never be contemplated by the leadership for a humble, rural Galilean, preacher like Jesus." Being seated in God's presence (like being seated during the National Anthem) by itself was audacious, though not necessarily a claim to divinity, until we add:

          The right hand reference, which means in this culture that Jesus is claiming to be seated by God "in a way that shares the highest honor with him." In other texts, the "right hand of God" is the place where the splendor and majesty of God comes from (Testament of Job), and the righteous are honored by being allowed to stand (not sit) at the right hand of God.
          In short, Jesus thereby claims the prerogatives of God with the combined honor of being seated at the right hand of God, and therefore asserts his divine identity.

          © Copyright Original Source



          Basically, this and other claims, like the Son of Man title, are claims to being divine. This particular claim seems to fall under the group of claims that could only be made, and be true, by someone divine. Like when Jesus goes and and forgives the paralyzed man.
          http://www.hebrew-streams.org/works/...s110-list.html

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          • #6
            ". . . Then cometh the end, when He [the Son] shall have delivered up the kingdom to God, even the Father; when He[the Son] shall have put down all rule and all authority and power. For He [the Son] must reign, till He [the Father] hath put all enemies under His [the Son's] feet. The last enemy that shall be destroyed is death. For He [the Father] hath put all things under His [the Son's] feet. But when He [the Son] saith, all things are put under Him [the Son], it is manifest that He [the Father] is excepted, which did put all things under Him[the Son]. And when all things shall be subdued unto Him [the Son], then shall the Son also Himself be subject unto Him [the Father] that put all things under Him[the Son], that God may be all in all. . . ." (1 Corinthians 15:24-28.)

            ". . . Wherefore God also hath highly exalted Him, and given Him a name which is above every name: That at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of things in heaven, and things in earth, and things under the earth; And that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father. . . ." (Philippians 2:9-11.)

            ". . . Look unto Me, and be ye saved, all the ends of the earth: for I am God, and there is none else. I have sworn by Myself, the word is gone out of My mouth in righteousness, and shall not return, That unto Me every knee shall bow, every tongue shall swear. . . ." (Isaiah 45:22-23.)
            . . . the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth; . . . -- Romans 1:16 KJV

            . . . that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures; And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures: . . . -- 1 Corinthians 15:3-4 KJV

            Whosoever believeth that Jesus is the Christ is born of God: . . . -- 1 John 5:1 KJV

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            • #7
              This rendering may help you from the "Divine Name King James Bible":-

              Ps. 110:1
              "Jehovah said unto my Lord, Sit thou at my right hand, until I make thine enemies thy footstool.( Mat 22:44; Luk 20:42; Mrk 12:36 )"

              Show that Jesus is a "Lord" (one having power etc.) but not God who name is shown in the verse.
              BU

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              • #8
                I think He was leaving His hearers to join the dots, and come to their own conclusions about Him.

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