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    Your Views on 'Your Views on Patriarchy'

    "Life's not fair! But can't be!!! Life must be fair!!! Right, sisters? How would life being not fair make you feel????

    "Yes, life is fair!!!!"

    "Life must be fair, otherwise God is unfair. But God cannot be unfair! I do not believe it!!!! So how do you deal with Scripture, also people saying life is unfair???'

    "Well belief that life is unfair is because of context!!! We now know in 21st century that life is fair!"

    "Yes!!!!!"

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    It is really really really unfair, but I'm sure we all agree with me on this!!!
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    Laughing aside, bless hearts of theirs
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wildflower View Post
    Yes, one difference between patriarchy/complementarianism and equalitarianism is that patriarchy/complementarianism forces men and women into "roles" whereas equalitarianism allows both men and women to move in their gifts. So in patriarchy/complementarianism a woman must always follow a male lead, be under his "authority". Whereas in equalitarianism a woman is free to lead males if that is her gift. Like Deborah.
    For the record, here is what egalitarians actually think of support roles:

    Here's where I'm at. If Complementarianism/Patriarchy is true... then either God purposely MADE me, as a female, deficient to lead, deficient to safely and adequately think for myself, protect myself, too deficient to make a "final decision", etc. OR God made me potentially adequate but then tells me that I can't use my potential. Because of an arbitrary creation order. Think about it, please. It's one or the other...at least that's how I see it. Tell me what you think...how do YOU deal?
    If God made you suited for a support role, you are "deficient... deficient... deficient...".

    The "Don't worry, I will take care of you. I'll take the responsibility for you, I'll shoulder this burden for you." Should I therefore see myself as incompetent to care for myself? Am I not capable of being responsible for myself? Why do I need a "spiritual" leader in my home? Is Christ not enough for me that I should need a supplement, revealing just how very deficient that I am? Am I a perpetual infant in constant need of male care like this? Did God purpose this deficiency in me so that a man could come and rescue me? What is this?! Or, if its just fake...if I don't really *need* a male to be my spiritual head, etc...then why damage a woman's identity over it? Why keep her from becoming strong enough and competent enough to make decisions for herself and share in these decisions with her family? Seriously.
    "Incompetent...not capable...deficient...perpetual infant...deficiency...damaged"

    Wildflower claims she "only" wants to be allowed in a role that is suited for her, but the way she constantly demeans support roles shows that she does not simply want to use the gifts she claims she has but wants to avoid support roles because she genuinely finds them not just inferior to leadership but downright contemptible.

    It's also amusing that she uses...Deborah, a woman leading under Patriarchy as an example. Pretty much every worthwhile female leader in history was sanctioned by a Patriarchal society. In fact it is actually the other way around. Patriarchy/Complementarianism supporters are the ones willing to give the (very rare) woman suited for leadership a chance. Conversely, egalitarianism always ends with pushing the bulk of women into roles they are unsuited for and making them miserable.
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    Quote Originally Posted by demi-conservative View Post
    "Life's not fair! But can't be!!! Life must be fair!!! Right, sisters? How would life being not fair make you feel????

    "Yes, life is fair!!!!"

    "Life must be fair, otherwise God is unfair. But God cannot be unfair! I do not believe it!!!! So how do you deal with Scripture, also people saying life is unfair???'

    "Well belief that life is unfair is because of context!!! We now know in 21st century that life is fair!"

    "Yes!!!!!"

    etc etc

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    It is really really really unfair, but I'm sure we all agree with me on this!!!
    Lay off the caffeine. really.

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    Sorry. Real men don't talk about their feelings.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Apologiaphoenix View Post
    Sorry. Real men don't talk about their feelings.
    I don't know Solomon wrote about feelings and the existential.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Apologiaphoenix View Post
    Sorry. Real men don't talk about their feelings.
    This post would have more impact if you didn't have a pink pony as an avatar.
    "But Lord, in your name did we not vote Democrat, and in your name did we not attend many Bernie rallies?" ~ Zymologist

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  9. Amen Cerebrum123 amen'd this post.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Darth Executor View Post
    This post would have more impact if you didn't have a pink pony as an avatar.



    it's purple!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Darth Executor View Post
    This post would have more impact if you didn't have a pink pony as an avatar.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sparko View Post
    Lay off the caffeine. really.
    More like those sillies need to get off binge of estrogen!!!
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