I Guess Hanging White Children Is OK...

[Starlight]

Right, we make them go out and break the law.

No, but there have been repeatedly found to be biases in the US system such that if blacks and whites are committing crimes at equal rates, that the blacks end up being disproportionately the ones arrested for it.

And it is definitely a choice by society as to whether people who commit not very serious crimes are sent to prison for decades and kept away from their families, or whether they are allowed to stay with their families.

Much better if we just let criminals and gangsta's stay out of prison because they will be much better role models for their children that way.

If you did let them stay out of prison at least you wouldn't whine about them not being there for their kids.

[seer]

Communist China with 1.3 billion people, compared to the USA with a population of 323,127,513 has an incarcerated population which is approx half that of the USA. So what does that say about the US compared to the Police State of China?

That people don't dare break the law in China

Capital punishment in China, The People's Republic of China executes the highest number of people annually, though other countries (such as Iran) have higher per capita execution rates.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capita...hment_in_China

And I bet they have longer more severe sentences.

[Mountain Man]

That people don't dare break the law in China

Capital punishment in China, The People's Republic of China executes the highest number of people annually, though other countries (such as Iran) have higher per capita execution rates.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capita...hment_in_China

And I bet they have longer more severe sentences.

So you're saying that the US could reduce its number of incarcerations by simply executing convicts instead? That's brilliant! And if we pursue that policy aggressively enough, we could reduce the number of incarcerations to 0, and liberals everywhere would celebrate!

[Bill the Cat]

It has nothing to do with discrimination so why the higher levels of crime among blacks?

I hate stereotyping an entire group like this. There are decent black folk and not-so-decent black folk. Just like with every other race. As to why blacks disproportionally commit violent crimes, it seems to be encouraged by the "gangsta" culture. Most are in their teens and early 20's. Disrespect for authority and others' personal property are applauded by those they idolize. A majority lack the core family that has been shown time and time again to be a mitigating factor for violent crime. (p. 238-239, Criminology: The Core, Larry J. Siegel) Here's a capture of the summary paragraph: (apologies if it isn't legible...)

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Are blacks just intrinsically bad and inferior human beings?

Intrinsically? No. Culturally? That's more of a possibility. It has nothing to do with their race and everything to do with the culture that is prevalent for them.

The KKK would be the first to agree with you.

Fallacy of guilt by association.

But WHY are so many black children born to unmarried women.

A host of reasons.

http://www.blacknews.com/news/black_...l#.WcUUdYWcF7g

"It's all connected. The question should be, how has the black family survived at all?" says Maria Kefalas, co-author of "Promises I Can Keep: Why Poor Women Put Motherhood Before Marriage."

The book is based on interviews with 162 low-income single mothers. One of its conclusions is that these women see motherhood as one of life's most fulfilling roles - a rare opportunity for love and joy, husband or no husband.

Marriage just isn't a priority in the black community. For whatever reason, it's become ingrained in their psyche that

http://www.blacknews.com/news/black_...l#.WcUUdYWcF7g

"It's another obligation that I don't need," Mouton says. "A good man is hard to find nowadays."

It's clearly a major social problem so what is being done about it?

Very little. And statistics show that single motherhood is growing in every demographic. Native Americans are at just under 70% and Hispanics are over 50%. Even whites are near 30%

Stop shouting you hysterical fool.

Not shouting. Just emphasizing your claims.

OK, “the United States has the largest prison population in the world and the second-highest per-capita incarceration rate, behind Seychelles.

That's the ticket.

Big deal! It’s is still double that of Communist China in absolute terms, even though China has a billion more people than the USA.

China's judicial system is completely different, as they execute far more people than we do. That's a side proof that swift capital punishment DOES deter crime...

The IHDI combines a country’s average achievements in health, education and income with how those achievements are distributed among country’s population...in the case of the US it is very inequitably distributed compared to the more secular countries that top the list. .

So, it's a measure of socialism. Got it.

As for expected Christian behaviour I suggest you read up on what Jesus said about the poor and underprivileged.

He said individual Christians should do what they can to help. But He said nothing about what a Government should do.

[Mountain Man]

A majority lack the core family that has been shown time and time again to be a mitigating factor for violent crime. (p. 238-239, Criminology: The Core, Larry J. Siegel)...

I read a story about some graffiti on a building that said, "Black Lives Matter!" Someone came by later to cross out the word "Lives" and replace it with "Fathers". Liberals were triggered.

[Sparko]

No, but there have been repeatedly found to be biases in the US system such that if blacks and whites are committing crimes at equal rates, that the blacks end up being disproportionately the ones arrested for it.

And it is definitely a choice by society as to whether people who commit not very serious crimes are sent to prison for decades and kept away from their families, or whether they are allowed to stay with their families.

If you did let them stay out of prison at least you wouldn't whine about them not being there for their kids.

They are not there for their kids before they end up in prison, Starlight.

[Mountain Man]

They are not there for their kids before they end up in prison, Starlight.

Not to mention that any responsible parent would do everything they could to make sure they were there for their kids, including not engaging in behavior that could get them thrown into jail.

[Tassman]

I hate stereotyping an entire group like this. There are decent black folk and not-so-decent black folk. Just like with every other race. As to why blacks disproportionally commit violent crimes, it seems to be encouraged by the "gangsta" culture. Most are in their teens and early 20's. Disrespect for authority and others' personal property are applauded by those they idolize. A majority lack the core family that has been shown time and time again to be a mitigating factor for violent crime. (p. 238-239, Criminology: The Core, Larry J. Siegel) Here's a capture of the summary paragraph: (apologies if it isn't legible...)

You are confusing the symptoms with the cause of “gangsta culture". It is the consequence of the ghettoisation common to many blacks, which results in social alienation to the mainstream society and hostility toward it. We see this demonstrated in the refusal to stand for the anthem by several black NFL players protesting against what they (rightly) believe to be social injustice against blacks.

Intrinsically? No. Culturally? That's more of a possibility. It has nothing to do with their race and everything to do with the culture that is prevalent for them.

I agree. And that culture in many cases is the deprived culture of the ghetto.

Very little. And statistics show that single motherhood is growing in every demographic. Native Americans are at just under 70% and Hispanics are over 50%. Even whites are near 30%

You are just outlining the problems, not providing solutions. More must be done for the sake of everybody. It’s damaging for the individuals concerned and society at large to simply let it fester.

China's judicial system is completely different, as they execute far more people than we do. That's a side proof that swift capital punishment DOES deter crime...

China has a billion more people than the USA yet half the number of those incarcerated as in the USA. As for the “deterrent effect” apparently not. Both the US and China have capital punishment, whereas most countries in the Western word do not...with much, much lower prison populations.

So, it's a measure of socialism. Got it.

The IHDI is a measure of a country’s average achievements in health, education and income with how those achievements are distributed among country’s population. Whatever you want to call it it seems to work better than the unfettered capitalism of the US.

He said individual Christians should do what they can to help. But He said nothing about what a Government should do.

Representative government as found in the West acts on behalf of what individual citizens should do. E.g. Jesus said: “Whoever has two tunics is to share with him who has none, and whoever has food is to do likewise.” Luke 3.

[Sparko]

Black NFL players who are among the richest and most privileged people in the country.

Yeah they are victims of social injustice

Why don't they put all their money where their knees are and fix the social injustice?

[rogue06]

You are confusing the symptoms with the cause of “gangsta culture". It is the consequence of the ghettoisation common to many blacks, which results in social alienation to the mainstream society and hostility toward it. We see this demonstrated in the refusal to stand for the anthem by several black NFL players protesting against what they (rightly) believe to be social injustice against blacks.

It arose not when blacks were still being blatantly discriminated against and were far poorer but not long after that stopped and their wealth and power was increasing substantially. You also find the culture infesting rural areas far away from any "ghettos"

[Mountain Man]

Tass is a blatant racist. He obviously thinks blacks are incapable of living civilly without white people's help.

[JimL]

Black NFL players who are among the richest and most privileged people in the country.

Yeah they are victims of social injustice

Why don't they put all their money where their knees are and fix the social injustice?

Why don't you stop being stupid and think a little bit about what you are saying before you say it. The topic is social injustice, not money per se.

[Sparko]

Why don't you stop being stupid and think a little bit about what you are saying before you say it. The topic is social injustice, not money per se.

because, if you notice that while complaining about social injustice, racism, and how big the gap is between the 1% and the poor, and how the white people don't care about black lives, wealthy blacks are among the worst offenders against their own people. Instead of actually helping their fellow blacks who are poor, once they get fame and wealth many of these black celebrities (sports stars, rappers, hollywood movie stars) flaunt their wealth wearing gold chains and gold teeth, driving around in sports cars and limousines, snorting cocaine, and living in mansions.

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[Tassman]

Tass is a blatant racist. He obviously thinks blacks are incapable of living civilly without white people's help.

Traditionally, with a few notable exceptions, government is in the hands of the white people...they are the ones who make the rules. And the blacks are the ones who are discriminated against.

[seer]

Traditionally, with a few notable exceptions, government is in the hands of the white people...they are the ones who make the rules. And the blacks are the ones who are discriminated against.

And most of the large cities where the worst pathologies are and have been run by white or black liberals, in mostly liberal states.