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"As for my people, children are their oppressors, and women rule over them. O my people, they which lead thee cause thee to err, and destroy the way of thy paths." Isaiah 3:12
There is no such thing as innocence, only degrees of guilt.
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Originally posted by Darth Executor View PostBlack murder rates are much higher than white murder rates. Same with rape (especially interracial rape).
And the US didn't have a massive prison system back then.
So it's not the least bit surprising that the black lynching rate was much higher.“He felt that his whole life was a kind of dream and he sometimes wondered whose it was and whether they were enjoying it.” - Douglas Adams.
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Originally posted by Tassman View PostOr could it be that the marginalisation of blacks results in the breakdown of social norms among the black community? I suggest the latter. So what is the US going to do about it?
It is nothing to be proud of that the USA has the highest rates of incarceration in the world, by far (it’s double that of China, which has a billion more people than the USA) with a grossly disproportionate percentage of blacks incarcerated.Atheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbnueb2OI4o&t=3s
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Originally posted by Tassman View PostWhy is this do you think? Are black people intrinsically more evil then white people...is that why they murder and rape more frequently than whites?
Or could it be that the marginalisation of blacks results in the breakdown of social norms among the black community?
I suggest the latter. So what is the US going to do about it?
It is nothing to be proud of that the USA has the highest rates of incarceration in the world, by far
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...rceration_rateThat's what
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Without a clear-cut definition of sin, morality becomes a mere argument over the best way to train animals
- Manya the Holy Szin (The Quintara Marathon)
I may not be as old as dirt, but me and dirt are starting to have an awful lot in common
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Originally posted by Bill the Cat View Post
The way to effectively battle the problem of a negative influence on society is through education. This education, however, will not take place within the walls of a school. In these cases, it is more important to educate parents and adults than children, so they can then try to regulate what they will allow to be present in their environment.
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Originally posted by Bill the Cat View PostIt's a direct result of the "gangsta" culture. The idolization of people like Dre, Suge, Tupac, Snoop, and Biggie and the gang-style life they all celebrated in their music coincides pretty identically with the rise in black on black murder and other violent crime.
Nope. Single parent/fatherless homes is what sociologists blame for the breakdown in the black community.
https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine...ration/403246/
The way to effectively battle the problem of a negative influence on society is through education. This education, however, will not take place within the walls of a school. In these cases, it is more important to educate parents and adults than children, so they can then try to regulate what they will allow to be present in their environment.
Um, no it doesn't. The Seychelles has 799 per 100,000. There are 133 nations that have a higher rate than China, including New Zealand and Australia.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...rceration_rate
“The United States has the largest prison population in the world, and the second-highest per-capita incarceration rate, behind Seychelles (which in 2014 had a total prison population of 735 out of a population of around 92,000).In 2013 in the USA, there were 698 persons incarcerated per 100,000 population.
While the United States represents about 4.4 percent of the world's population, it houses around 22 percent of the world's prisoners.”
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United...rceration_rate
Originally posted by Sparko View PostThe only solution is Jesus.Last edited by Tassman; 09-20-2017, 11:44 PM.“He felt that his whole life was a kind of dream and he sometimes wondered whose it was and whether they were enjoying it.” - Douglas Adams.
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Originally posted by Tassman View PostThe “gangsta culture” is far more likely the consequence of racial discrimination than its cause.
“President Johnson left no doubt about how the breakdown of the black family structure had come about. “For this, most of all, white America must accept responsibility,” Johnson said. Family breakdown “flows from centuries of oppression and persecution of the Negro man. It flows from the long years of degradation and discrimination, which have attacked his dignity and assaulted his ability to produce for his family.”Atheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbnueb2OI4o&t=3s
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Originally posted by seer View PostThis is nonsense and does not explain why the black family has gone from bad to worse even after billions of dollars flowed into their cities via the Great Society, even in light of the fact that blacks have much more opportunity today than they did back in the 30s, 40s,and 50s."I hate him passionately", he's "a demonic force" - Tucker Carlson, in private, on Donald Trump
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Originally posted by Tassman View PostThe “gangsta culture” is far more likely the consequence of racial discrimination than its cause.
“President Johnson left no doubt about how the breakdown of the black family structure had come about.
“For this, most of all, white America must accept responsibility,” Johnson said. Family breakdown “flows from centuries of oppression and persecution of the Negro man. It flows from the long years of degradation and discrimination, which have attacked his dignity and assaulted his ability to produce for his family.”
https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine...ration/403246/
Proactive government adjustment of the grossly inequitable distribution of the national wealth is what’s required along with a reduction of racial discrimination.
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Um, yes it does. From the same link:
“The United States has the largest prison population in the world, and the second-highest per-capita incarceration rate,
Now you say it has the SECOND highest rate. You were wrong. Number of incarcerated is not rate of incarcerated.
behind Seychelles (which in 2014 had a total prison population of 735 out of a population of around 92,000).In 2013 in the USA, there were 698 persons incarcerated per 100,000 population.
While the United States represents about 4.4 percent of the world's population, it houses around 22 percent of the world's prisoners.”
Nonsense! The more secular countries rank far higher on the IHDI than the predominantly Christian USALast edited by Bill the Cat; 09-21-2017, 08:04 AM.That's what
- She
Without a clear-cut definition of sin, morality becomes a mere argument over the best way to train animals
- Manya the Holy Szin (The Quintara Marathon)
I may not be as old as dirt, but me and dirt are starting to have an awful lot in common
- Stephen R. Donaldson
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Originally posted by Starlight View PostYou conservatives insist on getting 'tough on crime' and thus imprisioning a lot more black men for much longer, and then you turn around and whinge about them not being there for their families. You're the one's who've taken them away from their families. The problem is you.That's what
- She
Without a clear-cut definition of sin, morality becomes a mere argument over the best way to train animals
- Manya the Holy Szin (The Quintara Marathon)
I may not be as old as dirt, but me and dirt are starting to have an awful lot in common
- Stephen R. Donaldson
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Originally posted by Starlight View PostYou conservatives insist on getting 'tough on crime' and thus imprisioning a lot more black men for much longer, and then you turn around and whinge about them not being there for their families. You're the one's who've taken them away from their families. The problem is you.
Right, we make them go out and break the law.
Much better if we just let criminals and gangsta's stay out of prison because they will be much better role models for their children that way.
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Originally posted by Starlight View PostYou conservatives insist on getting 'tough on crime' and thus imprisioning a lot more black men for much longer, and then you turn around and whinge about them not being there for their families. You're the one's who've taken them away from their families. The problem is you."As for my people, children are their oppressors, and women rule over them. O my people, they which lead thee cause thee to err, and destroy the way of thy paths." Isaiah 3:12
There is no such thing as innocence, only degrees of guilt.
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Originally posted by Tassman View PostWhy is this do you think? Are black people intrinsically more evil then white people...is that why they murder and rape more frequently than whites? Or could it be that the marginalisation of blacks results in the breakdown of social norms among the black community? I suggest the latter. So what is the US going to do about it?
It is nothing to be proud of that the USA has the highest rates of incarceration in the world, by far (it’s double that of China, which has a billion more people than the USA) with a grossly disproportionate percentage of blacks incarcerated.
Lynching is not the application of justice, it's racially-based mob rule."As for my people, children are their oppressors, and women rule over them. O my people, they which lead thee cause thee to err, and destroy the way of thy paths." Isaiah 3:12
There is no such thing as innocence, only degrees of guilt.
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Originally posted by Bill the Cat View PostIt has nothing to do with discrimination. Nor does discrimination have anything to do with the disproportionately high crime rate in black communities.
Pulitzer-prize winning journalist George Will said in 2010 "A young social scientist from Harvard working in the Labor Department published a report. His name was Daniel Patrick Moynahan. He said, 'There is a crisis in the African American community, because 24 percent of African American children are born to unmarried women.' Today it’s tripled to 72 percent. That, and not an absence of rights, is surely the biggest impediment.”
https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine...ration/403246/
Which proves my point that you were wrong.
That's not incarceration rate, stupid. Quit making BS claims.
Ranking, Prison Population Total incarcerations:
1 United States of America: 2 145 100
2 China: 1 649 804
http://www.prisonstudies.org/highest...xonomy_tid=All
List the factors that go into IHDI and where the US falls short, and then compare those with expected Christian behavior
As for expected Christian behaviour I suggest you read up on what Jesus said about the poor and underprivileged.“He felt that his whole life was a kind of dream and he sometimes wondered whose it was and whether they were enjoying it.” - Douglas Adams.
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Originally posted by Darth Executor View PostNice attempt to change the subject but in this case it doesn't really help you. Since blacks were poorer and had fewer economic opportunities back then then it only makes sense that their crime rates were even higher.
75% isn't that much higher than 50% compared with the much higher poverty levels and the like. But if you believe blacks commit more crimes because they are poor then you cannot claim the lynch rate is in any way abnormal or a direct product of their race,
which would make your earlier comments dishonest. But if you DO think the lynch rate is mostly a product of racial discrimination then you have to out yourself as someone who believes the higher crime rates are innate to blacks, and furthermore since you believe that you must also believe that blacks have no agency in this regard, which would explain why you think punishing them for it is unjustified. Like shooting a gorilla at a zoo because a kid wandered into his pen.
Blacks are disproportionately incarcerated pretty much everywhere. They're actually even more disproportionately imprisoned in Britain, Britain just has a lot fewer of them so people are not aware of stuff like this. China has a high incarceration rate mostly because it's a police state. It has completely different demographics and isn't really worth comparing to.
It's not racially based unless you think blacks are inherently more criminal than whites. And let's face it, both you and your buddy starlight believe that, you just use it as a weapon to call CONSERVATIVES racist because they are dumb enough to take your statements on the issue in good faith and it works, like stealing halloween candy from children. Other than that I agree, I don't approve of lynching, especially when there is a justice system in place to deal with crimes.“He felt that his whole life was a kind of dream and he sometimes wondered whose it was and whether they were enjoying it.” - Douglas Adams.
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