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"As for my people, children are their oppressors, and women rule over them. O my people, they which lead thee cause thee to err, and destroy the way of thy paths." Isaiah 3:12
There is no such thing as innocence, only degrees of guilt.
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Originally posted by Darth Executor View PostWhat about those who didn't hear about a job at the vineyard (you know, the actual topic here)?Enter the Church and wash away your sins. For here there is a hospital and not a court of law. Do not be ashamed to enter the Church; be ashamed when you sin, but not when you repent. – St. John Chrysostom
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I recommend you do not try too hard and ...research as little as possible. Such weighty things give me a headache. - Shunyadragon, Baha'i apologist
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It would be difficult to argue that God has always been egalitarian in the sense suggested in this thread because it was presented first to the Jews (Romans 1:16), though Paul suggests that was not necessarily an advantage because it also presented them the greater opportunity for guilt upon failure to respond."I am not angered that the Moral Majority boys campaign against abortion. I am angry when the same men who say, "Save OUR children" bellow "Build more and bigger bombers." That's right! Blast the children in other nations into eternity, or limbless misery as they lay crippled from "OUR" bombers! This does not jell." - Leonard Ravenhill
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Originally posted by One Bad Pig View PostThe parable isn't meant to address that. Like all analogies, it's not an exact parallel."As for my people, children are their oppressors, and women rule over them. O my people, they which lead thee cause thee to err, and destroy the way of thy paths." Isaiah 3:12
There is no such thing as innocence, only degrees of guilt.
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Originally posted by Darth Executor View PostThe parable was meant to address discontent among believers. I'd imagine there would be even more discontent to address if the vineyard owner was throwing coins at people who didn't work at all.Enter the Church and wash away your sins. For here there is a hospital and not a court of law. Do not be ashamed to enter the Church; be ashamed when you sin, but not when you repent. – St. John Chrysostom
Veritas vos Liberabit<>< Learn Greek <>< Look here for an Orthodox Church in America<><Ancient Faith Radio
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I recommend you do not try too hard and ...research as little as possible. Such weighty things give me a headache. - Shunyadragon, Baha'i apologist
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Originally posted by Adrift View PostGood question. 1st Timothy tells us,
Atheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbnueb2OI4o&t=3s
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Originally posted by Darth Executor View PostGod DID offer salvation to everybody. He just didn't place it in everybody's bag.Atheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbnueb2OI4o&t=3s
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Originally posted by seer View PostI will see your 1 Tim 2, and raise a 1 Tim. 4:10 "That is why we labor and strive, because we have put our hope in the living God, who is the Savior of all men, and especially of those who believe.""I am not angered that the Moral Majority boys campaign against abortion. I am angry when the same men who say, "Save OUR children" bellow "Build more and bigger bombers." That's right! Blast the children in other nations into eternity, or limbless misery as they lay crippled from "OUR" bombers! This does not jell." - Leonard Ravenhill
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Originally posted by KingsGambit View PostIf you're interpreting 1 Timothy 4:10 in that manner, that would seem to teach universalism, not post mortem salvation.Last edited by seer; 10-19-2017, 11:28 AM.Atheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbnueb2OI4o&t=3s
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Originally posted by KingsGambit View PostIt would be difficult to argue that God has always been egalitarian in the sense suggested in this thread because it was presented first to the Jews (Romans 1:16), though Paul suggests that was not necessarily an advantage because it also presented them the greater opportunity for guilt upon failure to respond.
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Originally posted by Adrift View PostIt was presented first to the Jews so that through them all the nations could be saved. The bigger plan was always to make salvation available to all.
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Originally posted by JimL View PostAnd how about the millions who lived prior to that, or are you a young earth fundy? Make up some more crap to fit them into your belief. You see, you guys can make up stuff all you want, thats something human beings are good at, adjusting their ideas to fit their beliefs. But not even you people can agree, the bible is full of contradictions which you have to argue over and try to come up with a way to fix it in order to hang on to your precious beliefs, but you never really can, because its obviously nonsense.
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Originally posted by JimL View PostAnd how about the millions who lived prior to that, or are you a young earth fundy? Make up some more crap to fit them into your belief. You see, you guys can make up stuff all you want, thats something human beings are good at, adjusting their ideas to fit their beliefs. But not even you people can agree, the bible is full of contradictions which you have to argue over and try to come up with a way to fix it in order to hang on to your precious beliefs, but you never really can, because its obviously nonsense.
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Originally posted by Sparko View PostJimL, please tell me which question I didn't answer for you and in which post you asked it.Enter the Church and wash away your sins. For here there is a hospital and not a court of law. Do not be ashamed to enter the Church; be ashamed when you sin, but not when you repent. – St. John Chrysostom
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