Hugh Hefner is now in hell

[Starlight]

Life is the exclusive gift of God. None of us have the right to take it.

Unless said life puts a foot on your property or near your stuff, and then gunning them down is Fine.

Or if they live in a country that the US feels like bombing.

Or if the police feel like shooting them.

Or if the courts feel like executing them.

Or if they live in Puerto Rico.

Or if they don't have enough money to buy the medical treatment they need.

Or basically any reason, but their right to Life is Totally Important to US Conservatives right up to when they're born and at that point it stops mattering to them.

[Mountain Man]

I have a vague idea that some of the more zealous Christians at times in history might have been into killing children of heathens in order to save their souls - on the grounds that the dead child would go to heaven but if they grew up to be an adult heathen the they'd go to hell (not sure whether it was the crusaders, inquisition, conquistadors, or what).

"Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light, and light for darkness; that put bitter for sweet, and sweet for bitter!" -Isaiah 15:20

[Terraceth]

A have repeatedly asked them whether they really thought that babies or even featuses would go to hell and they have confirmed. Not much to misunderstand.

Then I expect you are either dramatically overstating the "many" who have told you this, considering the fringeness of that view, or you happen to live in some neighborhood where it's oddly common.

But does not change the fact that some actually hold this. Which parts of scripture would you point to?

There's not much one can say when attempting to address or analyze the views of an unknown group that are only being presented by a simplified secondhand account. Someone might be better able to address this topic if you were to at least indicate which church they were members of.

[Mountain Man]

Unless said life puts a foot on your property or near your stuff, and then gunning them down is Fine.

Or if they live in a country that the US feels like bombing.

Or if the police feel like shooting them.

Or if the courts feel like executing them.

Or if they live in Puerto Rico.

Or if they don't have enough money to buy the medical treatment they need.

Or basically any reason, but their right to Life is Totally Important to US Conservatives right up to when they're born and at that point it stops mattering to them.

Ignoring the burning straw, but there is a distinction between murdering and justified killing. It might be debatable exactly where that line is drawn, but it does exist.

Here's an easy one: someone walks into a crowd and starts shooting. Would you be OK with someone else using deadly force to stop him? Most rational people would say yes.

[One Bad Pig]

Unless said life puts a foot on your property or near your stuff, and then gunning them down is Fine.

Or if they live in a country that the US feels like bombing.

Or if the police feel like shooting them.

Or if the courts feel like executing them.

Or if they live in Puerto Rico.

Or if they don't have enough money to buy the medical treatment they need.

Or basically any reason, but their right to Life is Totally Important to US Conservatives right up to when they're born and at that point it stops mattering to them.

That's quite a bonfire you've got going there; looks like you've immolated a couple haystacks' worth of straw in one post.

[JimL]

That is quite possibly the dumbest argument I've ever seen. Life is the exclusive gift of God. None of us have the right to take it.

Well according to your belief, yes, life is a gift of god, but that doesn't answer to what I said. If children that die go straight to heaven, and you are willing to give up your own life to give your child that, then whether its your right or not, it works right? And again, if children that die go straight to heaven, then god could have forgone the whole crucible thing in the first place which kind of messes with your whole free will argument.

[lilpixieofterror]

Unless said life puts a foot on your property or near your stuff, and then gunning them down is Fine.

Or if they live in a country that the US feels like bombing.

Or if the police feel like shooting them.

Or if the courts feel like executing them.

Or if they live in Puerto Rico.

Or if they don't have enough money to buy the medical treatment they need.

Or basically any reason, but their right to Life is Totally Important to US Conservatives right up to when they're born and at that point it stops mattering to them.

The US military is doing relief missions to Puerto Rico. Beyond making up things about consertives, so you can keep ignoring your own immoral views towards the whole sale slaughter of children for your god of abortion, what have you actually done for those in distress?

[lilpixieofterror]

Well according to your belief, yes, life is a gift of god, but that doesn't answer to what I said. If children that die go straight to heaven, and you are willing to give up your own life to give your child that, then whether its your right or not, it works right? And again, if children that die go straight to heaven, then god could have forgone the whole crucible thing in the first place which kind of messes with your whole free will argument.

It answers the question quite successfully. God is the creator of life and is the only one that can ultimately decide to take it. It isn’t rocket science, why can’t you figure this out?

[rogue06]

The US military is doing relief missions to Puerto Rico. Beyond making up things about consertives, so you can keep ignoring your own immoral views towards the whole sale slaughter of children for your god of abortion, what have you actually done for those in distress?

The left was so busy freaking out about Trump saying that NFL players ought to be fired for taking a knee during the National Anthem that they completely ignored what happened to Puerto Rico (who cares what happens to a bunch of brown people as long as we think we have something to bash Trump with, right guys?). Now they want to pretend it was Trump who didn't care.

[JimL]

It answers the question quite successfully. God is the creator of life and is the only one that can ultimately decide to take it. It isn’t rocket science, why can’t you figure this out?

No god is not the only one that can take a life; on what planet have you been living? People take the lives of other people every day here on earth Lilpix. It isn't rocket science, why can't you figure that out?

[lilpixieofterror]

No god is not the only one that can take a life; on what planet have you been living? People take the lives of other people every day here on earth Lilpix. It isn't rocket science, why can't you figure that out?

Apparently you need to learn to read for basic comprehension. Do I need to show you what you missed?

[JimL]

Apparently you need to learn to read for basic comprehension. Do I need to show you what you missed?

Yes please, I didn't miss anything, but please do teach me what ultimately has to do with this argument. It doesn't Lilpix.

[Starlight]

That's quite a bonfire you've got going there; looks like you've immolated a couple haystacks' worth of straw in one post.

I can understand you having no desire to try to defend your indefensible and deeply hypocritical worldview.

[shunyadragon]

I won't presume to know Hugh Hefner's fate, but I do know that he was a purveyor of smut and that he irreparably harmed American culture.

The irreparable harm to American culture is self inflicted.

[JimL]

The irreparable harm to American culture is self inflicted.

Awe, its not irreparable, just need to expose and impeach the con man crook and his swamp creatures from office. We overcame the civil war, we can certainly recover from this creep and his gang.