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  • #16
    Originally posted by Bill the Cat View Post
    From a literal perspective:
    Cambridge Bible Commentary
    Death gave up all the bodies of men, and hades their souls, to be united to their bodies. All, whether buried (death) or unburied (in the sea), are raised and judged.

    And a symbolic one:
    Pulpit Commentary
    The sea being a type of the ungodly nations, the sentence may mean those spiritually dead, but living on the earth at the time of the judgment. The next clause seems to support this view. And death and hell delivered up the dead which were in them; death and Hades (see Revelation 1:18; Revelation 6:8). As in Revelation 6:8, the two - really one - are mentioned separately, the latter being looked upon as the guard house of those whom the former has seized. This clause, taken in conjunction with the preceding one, may mean - From the ungodly nations, those physically living but spiritually dead were called up for judgment, and also those who were actually dead, having been seized by death and Hades. And they were judged every man according to their works. A solemn repetition of ver. 12
    OK. So goats in their judgement didn't know they were lost until then (Matthew 25:41) . And those who called Jesus "Lord, Lord" also didn't know they were lost until Jesus said He never knew them (Matthew 7:21-23).
    . . . the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth; . . . -- Romans 1:16 KJV

    . . . that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures; And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures: . . . -- 1 Corinthians 15:3-4 KJV

    Whosoever believeth that Jesus is the Christ is born of God: . . . -- 1 John 5:1 KJV

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    • #17
      Originally posted by seer View Post
      I don't think they party in hell...
      Have you been there? Maybe Mark Twain is right.
      Glendower: I can call spirits from the vasty deep.
      Hotspur: Why, so can I, or so can any man;
      But will they come when you do call for them? Shakespeare’s Henry IV, Part 1, Act III:

      go with the flow the river knows . . .

      Frank

      I do not know, therefore everything is in pencil.

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      • #18
        Originally posted by Christianbookworm View Post
        Porn is shameful. Treating women like pleasure objects is shameful.
        So... gay porn is morally superior?
        "I hate him passionately", he's "a demonic force" - Tucker Carlson, in private, on Donald Trump
        "Every line of serious work that I have written since 1936 has been written, directly or indirectly, against totalitarianism and for democratic socialism" - George Orwell
        "[Capitalism] as it exists today is, in my opinion, the real source of evils. I am convinced there is only one way to eliminate these grave evils, namely through the establishment of a socialist economy" - Albert Einstein

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        • #19
          It makes me sad you guys would worship a God who would send people to hell. Says a lot about you as people really.
          "I hate him passionately", he's "a demonic force" - Tucker Carlson, in private, on Donald Trump
          "Every line of serious work that I have written since 1936 has been written, directly or indirectly, against totalitarianism and for democratic socialism" - George Orwell
          "[Capitalism] as it exists today is, in my opinion, the real source of evils. I am convinced there is only one way to eliminate these grave evils, namely through the establishment of a socialist economy" - Albert Einstein

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          • #20
            Originally posted by shunyadragon View Post
            Have you been there? Maybe Mark Twain is right.
            I take Christ, not Twain, as my authority on hell.

            Or as ‘Abdu’l-Bahá says:

            The rewards of the other world are the perfections and the peace obtained in the spiritual worlds after leaving this world … the spiritual graces, the various spiritual gifts in the Kingdom of God, the gaining of the desires of the heart and the soul, and the meeting of God in the world of eternity. In the same way the punishments of the other world … consist in being deprived of the special divine blessings and the absolute bounties, and falling into the lowest degrees of existence. He who is deprived of these divine favours, although he continues after death, is considered as dead by the people of truth.

            http://reference.bahai.org/en/t/o/BN...ighlight#pg191
            Last edited by seer; 09-28-2017, 05:02 PM.
            Atheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbnueb2OI4o&t=3s

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            • #21
              Originally posted by Starlight View Post
              It makes me sad you guys would worship a God who would send people to hell. Says a lot about you as people really.
              Well you don't have to go to hell Star, you can repent this very night!
              Atheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...

              https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbnueb2OI4o&t=3s

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              • #22
                Well, thought this would be a perfect opportunity to take the mickey a bit. Turns out we all want to talk about hell instead. Misread that one.

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by EvoUK View Post
                  Well, thought this would be a perfect opportunity to take the mickey a bit. Turns out we all want to talk about hell instead. Misread that one.
                  It's an opportunity for whatever you'd like really. Porn, hell, sex, polygamy, STDs, all the good topics.

                  Hefner's death makes me wonder whether there is sex in the Christian afterlife. Jesus' response to the question of who a man who'd been married multiple times in his life would be married to in the afterlife, was that man would be like the angels in the afterlife and not marry. That could be interpreted as no sex... or as very liberated sexual activities. I guess for Hefner, heaven might seem like hell if there's no sex.

                  Personally, of all Christian views of the afterlife, I always kind of liked Origen's view: God reincarnates people endlessly until they've reached sufficient perfection and then he lets them into heaven.
                  "I hate him passionately", he's "a demonic force" - Tucker Carlson, in private, on Donald Trump
                  "Every line of serious work that I have written since 1936 has been written, directly or indirectly, against totalitarianism and for democratic socialism" - George Orwell
                  "[Capitalism] as it exists today is, in my opinion, the real source of evils. I am convinced there is only one way to eliminate these grave evils, namely through the establishment of a socialist economy" - Albert Einstein

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by Dimbulb View Post
                    Personally, of all Christian views of the afterlife, I always kind of liked Origen's view: God reincarnates people endlessly until they've reached sufficient perfection and then he lets them into heaven.
                    Of course you like that view, because it essentially means never being held accountable for your sins.
                    Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
                    But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
                    Than a fool in the eyes of God


                    From "Fools Gold" by Petra

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by seer View Post
                      Well you don't have to go to hell Star, you can repent this very night!
                      It's morning here. I repented and welcomed Jesus into my heart as a kid. Depending on your theology that might be still working for me.

                      Over time the amount of evidence against Christianity in my mind has continued to accumulate to be sky-high, as have the reasons I have for condemning Christianity and for viewing it with utter contempt. I can't envision a future where I'm ever a Christian again. It's possible that with time I might one day be able to forgive Christianity/Christians for their evils and the harms they have done to myself and others, and change from feeling actively hostile and utterly contemptuous toward it to merely neutral and tolerant and agnostic.
                      "I hate him passionately", he's "a demonic force" - Tucker Carlson, in private, on Donald Trump
                      "Every line of serious work that I have written since 1936 has been written, directly or indirectly, against totalitarianism and for democratic socialism" - George Orwell
                      "[Capitalism] as it exists today is, in my opinion, the real source of evils. I am convinced there is only one way to eliminate these grave evils, namely through the establishment of a socialist economy" - Albert Einstein

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by Mountain Man View Post
                        Of course you like that view, because it essentially means never being held accountable for your sins.


                        Your pseudo-psychology is soooo off base it's hilarious.

                        The reason I like that theological view because it paints God as not a monster. Other more common Christian views of hell essentially depict God as an awful and nasty being who is more evil than the worst human dictator in history.
                        Last edited by Starlight; 09-28-2017, 05:41 PM.
                        "I hate him passionately", he's "a demonic force" - Tucker Carlson, in private, on Donald Trump
                        "Every line of serious work that I have written since 1936 has been written, directly or indirectly, against totalitarianism and for democratic socialism" - George Orwell
                        "[Capitalism] as it exists today is, in my opinion, the real source of evils. I am convinced there is only one way to eliminate these grave evils, namely through the establishment of a socialist economy" - Albert Einstein

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by Starlight View Post
                          It makes me sad you guys would worship a God who would send people to hell. Says a lot about you as people really.
                          As my post above alluded, God doesn't send people to hell. People choose to go there.
                          Enter the Church and wash away your sins. For here there is a hospital and not a court of law. Do not be ashamed to enter the Church; be ashamed when you sin, but not when you repent. – St. John Chrysostom

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by EvoUK View Post
                            Autopsy results just announced: Myxomatosis
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                            I'm always still in trouble again

                            "You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
                            "Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
                            "Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by rogue06 View Post
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                              I was afraid to look it up at first...learned something new today!
                              I DENOUNCE DONALD J. TRUMP AND ALL HIS IMMORAL ACTS.

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by Dimbulb View Post


                                Your pseudo-psychology is soooo off base it's hilarious.

                                The reason I like that theological view because it paints God as not a monster. Other more common Christian views of hell essentially depict God as an awful and nasty being who is more evil than the worst human dictator in history.
                                Yes, you think it makes God "not a monster" because you're essentially never held accountable for your sins.

                                I like the view that both the repentant and unrepentant will spend eternity in God's presence; for the former it will be heaven, and for the latter it will be hell.
                                Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
                                But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
                                Than a fool in the eyes of God


                                From "Fools Gold" by Petra

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