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Originally posted by Sparko View Postmennonites can use technology and drive cars. they are not the same as Amish.
they even have a website: http://mennoniteusa.org/
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Originally posted by Adrift View PostAs I understand it (we have a lot of Mennonites here, and I read a book on it years ago), Mennonites range from very strict to not strict at all. There are plenty of Mennonite groups that are more or less indistinguishable from stricter Amish, and then there are Amish who you wouldn't be able to tell from anyone else.Enter the Church and wash away your sins. For here there is a hospital and not a court of law. Do not be ashamed to enter the Church; be ashamed when you sin, but not when you repent. – St. John Chrysostom
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Originally posted by KingsGambit View PostPacifism is really one of the main draws for me; as I've mentioned elsewhere, the early Christians were almost overwhelmingly pacifist, and they took their reasoning for this directly from the Sermon on the Mount. I fear that not being pacifist would be claiming I know better than all these.
I do struggle to reconcile this with the fact that John the Baptist did not condemn the centurions which is why I'm not 100% convinced."For I desire mercy, not sacrifice, and acknowledgment of God rather than burnt offerings." Hosea 6:6
"Theology can be an intellectual entertainment." Metropolitan Anthony Bloom
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There's a Mennonite like group back in Waco. They're really nice and their sense of community is attractive. However as I understand it they reject Trinitarianism. I've never been explicitly told what they hold instead, but my suspicion is modalism, Patrick.
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A friend of mine married a Mennonite who is a professor in aerospace engineering so clearly there is no universal rejection of technology."I am not angered that the Moral Majority boys campaign against abortion. I am angry when the same men who say, "Save OUR children" bellow "Build more and bigger bombers." That's right! Blast the children in other nations into eternity, or limbless misery as they lay crippled from "OUR" bombers! This does not jell." - Leonard Ravenhill
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Originally posted by Rayado View PostNope. But we do have a good-sized Mennonite community not far from here. Wonderful people. Good carpenters.Watch your links! http://www.theologyweb.com/campus/fa...corumetiquette
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Originally posted by One Bad Pig View PostIIRC JB is Mennonite.
I do live in a very Amish- and Mennonite-heavy area, and the community where I pastor might be predominantly an Anabaptist one.
Lots of diversity among Mennonites. One of my best friends in high school was a Mennonite who was obsessed with military strategy, go figure.
A couple months back, I picked up a bunch of goodies from the local Mennonite historical society's annual book sale. I look forward to a little challenge (I have some sympathies with pacifism (as well as some critiques), but those usually wane pretty quickly every time I make the mistake of talking to an actual pacifist about it, heh)."The Jesus Christ who saves sinners is the same Christ who beckons his followers to serious use of their minds for serious explorations of the world." - Mark Noll
"It cannot be that the people should grow in grace unless they give themselves to reading." - John Wesley
"Wherever men are still theological, there is still some chance of their being logical." - G. K. Chesterton
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Originally posted by JB DoulosChristou View PostA couple months back, I picked up a bunch of goodies from the local Mennonite historical society's annual book sale. I look forward to a little challenge (I have some sympathies with pacifism (as well as some critiques), but those usually wane pretty quickly every time I make the mistake of talking to an actual pacifist about it, heh).
This is why I would probably not maintain the position as absolutely as he does. His blog post about Christians who would resort to guns instead of prayer in an emergency situation rang somewhat hollow with me.Last edited by KingsGambit; 10-02-2017, 10:14 PM."I am not angered that the Moral Majority boys campaign against abortion. I am angry when the same men who say, "Save OUR children" bellow "Build more and bigger bombers." That's right! Blast the children in other nations into eternity, or limbless misery as they lay crippled from "OUR" bombers! This does not jell." - Leonard Ravenhill
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Originally posted by JB DoulosChristou View PostAbout as Mennonite as you are Presbyterian...
I do live in a very Amish- and Mennonite-heavy area, and the community where I pastor might be predominantly an Anabaptist one.Enter the Church and wash away your sins. For here there is a hospital and not a court of law. Do not be ashamed to enter the Church; be ashamed when you sin, but not when you repent. – St. John Chrysostom
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Originally posted by KingsGambit View PostIt's admittedly slightly more difficult to defend the doctrine immediately in the wake of a mass shooting. Preston Sprinkle (who I respect a ton) maintains that Christians can only be police officers if they would not fire a gun. That would mean allowing an Adam Lanza or yesterday's shooter (had he not committed suicide) free reign.
This is why I would probably not maintain the position as absolutely as he does. His blog post about Christians who would resort to guns instead of prayer in an emergency situation rang somewhat hollow with me.
Originally posted by One Bad Pig View PostMy parents were both raised Presbyterian.
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"It cannot be that the people should grow in grace unless they give themselves to reading." - John Wesley
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