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I'm always still in trouble again
"You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
"Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
"Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman
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Originally posted by NorrinRadd View PostI am surprised and disappointed by the reaction. It's not just the far left fringe that is not undergoing jingoistic apoplexy. The libertarian fringe, which is closer to my perspective, also is not particularly offended.
Until now, I had not realized the gap between conservative and libertarian was so wide on such issues.Remember that you are dust and to dust you shall return.
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Originally posted by Darth Executor View PostTo be fair, MLK was dealing with a pretty racist country that wouldn't have put up with this kind of thing. As in, there would have been violence over these stunts.
I'm always still in trouble again
"You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
"Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
"Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman
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Originally posted by rogue06 View PostYou mean like the violent reaction to the Olympic athletes who gave the black power salute during an award ceremony in Mexico City as the American national anthem was played? Oh wait."As for my people, children are their oppressors, and women rule over them. O my people, they which lead thee cause thee to err, and destroy the way of thy paths." Isaiah 3:12
There is no such thing as innocence, only degrees of guilt.
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I'm always still in trouble again
"You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
"Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
"Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman
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Originally posted by rogue06 View PostIn a way that makes it worse.
Not too many careers running a 200 meter race"As for my people, children are their oppressors, and women rule over them. O my people, they which lead thee cause thee to err, and destroy the way of thy paths." Isaiah 3:12
There is no such thing as innocence, only degrees of guilt.
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Originally posted by Darth Executor View PostIt makes it much harder for thugs to start stuff there since I doubt most could even afford plane tickets to Mexico. The crowd there was considerably more enraged and engaged than today, where at best they might not come to future games.
Originally posted by Darth Executor View PostIf you're not top tier, no. But that's not applicable here.
You're the one who said it ended their "careers."
I'm always still in trouble again
"You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
"Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
"Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman
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Originally posted by rogue06 View PostTypical liberal reaction to when the public is repulsed by their actions. The public is just too stupid to understand.
https://fivethirtyeight.com/features...n-how-you-ask/
Also, they tend not to be the victims of police violence and racism, whereas the blacks are.
Originally posted by Cow Poke View PostMLK was way smarter than the current flock of "rebels". You must have flunked history badly. MLK did nothing to disgrace his country or our flag.“He felt that his whole life was a kind of dream and he sometimes wondered whose it was and whether they were enjoying it.” - Douglas Adams.
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Originally posted by Tassman View PostWell certainly the white audience in Alabama was “repulsed” when Trump attacked NFL players who have kneeled, what else would you expect from this sort of audience? But they are not the “majority”.
https://fivethirtyeight.com/features...n-how-you-ask/
Also, they tend not to be the victims of police violence and racism, whereas the blacks are.
They’re not “rebels” and their protest is not about the flag, their stated intention is protest against racial injustice...just as was MLK’s.
And again, multiple studies have repeatedly shown that a white person is considerably more likely to be shot and killed in a confrontation with police than a black person resulting in more research trying to explain why this is the case[1]. So much for victims of police racism especially considering that your racist police are often black.
1. prominent explanations are that the police are more restrained in dealing with blacks knowing how it gets portrayed to the police in predominantly white areas don't have as much experience handling aggressively hostile people and tend to over-react.Last edited by rogue06; 10-16-2017, 01:03 AM.
I'm always still in trouble again
"You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
"Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
"Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman
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Originally posted by demi-conservative View PostLibertarians don't care much about loyalty. News at 11!!!
A lot of my family is Democrat, moderate, and Lutheran (ELCA).
I don't know that I have any real-life libertarian associates. Even I myself am more conservatarian than libertarian, once my foreign policy attitudes are considered.
I said all that to set this up: Most of what I know about libertarians comes from TV and the Internet. ISTM that in general, libertarians have loyalty or fidelity to their beliefs. Those beliefs include a high regard for individual conscience, and a low regard for collectivism, and for authority structures that would restrict individual conscience. Those latter things could be viewed by some as a lack of "loyalty." I'm not sure libertarians themselves would see them as such, just as many do not see the kneelers as being unpatriotic or disrespectful.Geislerminian Antinomian Kenotic Charispneumaticostal Gender Mutualist-Egalitarian.
Beige Federalist.
Nationalist Christian.
"Everybody is somebody's heretic."
Social Justice is usually the opposite of actual justice.
Proud member of the this space left blank community.
Would-be Grand Vizier of the Padishah Maxi-Super-Ultra-Hyper-Mega-MAGA King Trumpius Rex.
Justice for Ashli Babbitt!
Justice for Matthew Perna!
Arrest Ray Epps and his Fed bosses!
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Originally posted by rogue06 View PostSorry Tass. I know you are really desperate to pretend its just a bunch of Hillary's basket of deplorables who were repulsed by the multi-millionaire athlete's petulance
but several polls revealed that by a 2 to 1 margin the American public opposes them in this. That was why the MSM tried so darn hard to spike the story (and in some cases their own polls) claiming that the public was "divided" and such and only mentioning that they also rejected Trump interjecting himself into the controversy.
It is the likes of you and Trump trying “so darn hard to spike the story”, not MSM. I can’t find these studies of yours. Every study I’ve seen says there are “Stark divisions...among respondents across different racial and ethnic groups. Three-quarters of African Americans said NFL player protests were respectful, while a majority of white Americans— 55 percent — said the demonstrations were disrespectful". That's hardly the "vast majority" as you claim.
http://www.pbs.org/newshour/rundown/...-nfl-protests/
And again, multiple studies have repeatedly shown that a white person is considerably more likely to be shot and killed in a confrontation with police than a black person resulting in more research trying to explain why this is the case[1]. So much for victims of police racism especially considering that your racist police are often black.
“Black Americans are more than twice as likely as white Americans to be killed by police officers.1 Researchers agree that racism almost certainly plays a role in that disparity”.
https://fivethirtyeight.com/features...led-by-police/Last edited by Tassman; 10-16-2017, 05:18 AM.“He felt that his whole life was a kind of dream and he sometimes wondered whose it was and whether they were enjoying it.” - Douglas Adams.
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Yes, let's ignore the multiple studies showing that blacks are disproportionately more likely to engage in criminal activity, that blacks are more likely to be armed, and that blacks are more likely to take a shot at police, yet despite all this, it's WHITES who are disproportionately more likely to be shot by police.
http://www.dailywire.com/news/7264/5...-aaron-bandlerSome may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
Than a fool in the eyes of God
From "Fools Gold" by Petra
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Originally posted by Mountain Man View PostYes, let's ignore the multiple studies showing that blacks are disproportionately more likely to engage in criminal activity, that blacks are more likely to be armed, and that blacks are more likely to take a shot at police, yet despite all this, it's WHITES who are disproportionately more likely to be shot by police.Jorge: Functional Complex Information is INFORMATION that is complex and functional.
MM: First of all, the Bible is a fixed document.
MM on covid-19: We're talking about an illness with a better than 99.9% rate of survival.
seer: I believe that so called 'compassion' [for starving Palestinian kids] maybe a cover for anti Semitism, ...
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Originally posted by Tassman View PostThey’re not “rebels”
and their protest is not about the flag, their stated intention is protest against racial injustice...just as was MLK’s.
You guys are deranged.The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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