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  • Originally posted by seer View Post
    But why would that be unusual or racial.
    It doesn't seem to be. If blacks commit 52% of homicides, it makes sense that 52% of police shootings are of blacks.

    MM cherry-picked data to claim that only 22% of police shootings were of blacks. Is that unusual or racial?
    Jorge: Functional Complex Information is INFORMATION that is complex and functional.

    MM: First of all, the Bible is a fixed document.
    MM on covid-19: We're talking about an illness with a better than 99.9% rate of survival.

    seer: I believe that so called 'compassion' [for starving Palestinian kids] maybe a cover for anti Semitism, ...

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    • Originally posted by Roy View Post
      How will the cycle be broken?
      Two parent families with the father in the home would go a long way.
      Atheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbnueb2OI4o&t=3s

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      • Originally posted by Roy View Post
        It doesn't seem to be. If blacks commit 52% of homicides, it makes sense that 52% of police shootings are of blacks.

        MM cherry-picked data to claim that only 22% of police shootings were of blacks. Is that unusual or racial?
        I don't know if MM was being racial, he just had incomplete data.
        Atheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...

        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbnueb2OI4o&t=3s

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        • Originally posted by seer View Post
          I don't know if MM was being racial, he just had incomplete data.
          Incomplete data that he selected.
          Jorge: Functional Complex Information is INFORMATION that is complex and functional.

          MM: First of all, the Bible is a fixed document.
          MM on covid-19: We're talking about an illness with a better than 99.9% rate of survival.

          seer: I believe that so called 'compassion' [for starving Palestinian kids] maybe a cover for anti Semitism, ...

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          • Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
            When you say "we all", that's..... you and your imaginary admirers? Jimmy, there's not a single poster on here who thinks you're intelligent! Not ONE!
            IIRC Starlight called him intelligent - and I wouldn't call Tassman and Charles imaginary.

            Other than that, I got nothin'.
            Enter the Church and wash away your sins. For here there is a hospital and not a court of law. Do not be ashamed to enter the Church; be ashamed when you sin, but not when you repent. – St. John Chrysostom

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            • Originally posted by One Bad Pig View Post
              IIRC Starlight called him intelligent -
              Hmmmm.... given Star's most recent rant...
              The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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              • Originally posted by Roy View Post
                I don't know if MM was being racial, he just had incomplete data.
                Incomplete data that he selected.
                NB: The 2011 report MM cited contains historical data on police shootings from 2000-2011. MM could have used more than a decade's worth of data, but chose instead to pick data for a single year. MM didn't have incomplete data. He selected incomplete data.
                Jorge: Functional Complex Information is INFORMATION that is complex and functional.

                MM: First of all, the Bible is a fixed document.
                MM on covid-19: We're talking about an illness with a better than 99.9% rate of survival.

                seer: I believe that so called 'compassion' [for starving Palestinian kids] maybe a cover for anti Semitism, ...

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                • Originally posted by Roy View Post
                  NB: The 2011 report MM cited contains historical data on police shootings from 2000-2011. MM could have used more than a decade's worth of data, but chose instead to pick data for a single year. MM didn't have incomplete data. He selected incomplete data.
                  IMO, it's probably best to go with everyone fired at by police, since they shoot to kill. That way you get a more statistically significant sample size. I agree that one-year outliers are a rather poor selection of data, especially with such small sample sizes.
                  Enter the Church and wash away your sins. For here there is a hospital and not a court of law. Do not be ashamed to enter the Church; be ashamed when you sin, but not when you repent. – St. John Chrysostom

                  Veritas vos Liberabit<>< Learn Greek <>< Look here for an Orthodox Church in America<><Ancient Faith Radio
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                  I recommend you do not try too hard and ...research as little as possible. Such weighty things give me a headache. - Shunyadragon, Baha'i apologist

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                  • Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
                    Ya know, this is a good example of the fact that you are often a total stranger to the truth. You're either ignorant, or an outright liar.
                    No, Tazz has you pegged exactly.


                    So, go ahead and say it, Tazzy. I double dog dare you. Say that you believe Jimmy is intelligent! In fact, admit that he's as smart as you are!
                    Way to go Preacher, way to keep exposing your true character.

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                    • JimL reminds me of someone standing in a mud pit telling passersby that they need to take a shower.

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                      • Originally posted by JimL View Post
                        No, Tazz has you pegged exactly.
                        Yeah, I'll stay up all night worrying about that, Jimmy.
                        The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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                        • Originally posted by Roy View Post
                          Why you think this shows whites are statistically more likely...
                          I didn't say "more likely", I said "disproportionately more likely".
                          Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
                          But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
                          Than a fool in the eyes of God


                          From "Fools Gold" by Petra

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                          • Originally posted by Roy View Post
                            MM cherry-picked data...
                            No, I didn't. That was just the report I happened to find with an internet search. It's not like I looked through several reports and then chose the one I liked the best.

                            At any rate, it just confirmed other studies that have been done showing that police are more likely to take a shot at a white person than a black person. I've referenced that study elsewhere in this thread.
                            Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
                            But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
                            Than a fool in the eyes of God


                            From "Fools Gold" by Petra

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                            • Here's one study...

                              Source: Washington Post

                              ...there has also been a contrary narrative, that officers are hesitant to fire at black suspects, starting with a 1977 analysis of reports from major metropolitan departments which found officers fired more shots at white suspects than at black suspects, possibly because of “public sentiment concerning treatment of blacks.” And in 2004, David Klinger at the University of Missouri-St. Louis interviewed more than 100 officers and found “evidence of increased wariness about using deadly force against black suspects for fear of how it would be perceived and the associated consequences.”

                              Into this conflict of views enters Lois James at Washington State, who has made studying the race factor in police shootings a specialty. For the most part, simply using data from police reports doesn’t include the episodes where an officer doesn’t shoot or doesn’t hit a target. So she has turned to the lab to try to simulate the circumstances officers face on the job, keeping all the factors identical within a scenario — type of weapon, body language and spoken threats, clothes, surroundings — except the race of the suspect.

                              In two previous tests using police simulators, James monitored the neurophysiological reactions, such as brain waves, of both police officers and civilians to deadly encounters. She said in an interview Tuesday that she found that “the participants were experiencing a greater threat response when faced with African Americans instead of white or Hispanic suspects.” But even with that response, in both studies the police and non-police participants were “significantly slower to shoot armed black suspects than armed white suspects, and significantly less likely to mistakenly shoot unarmed black suspects than unarmed white suspects.”

                              https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...-surprise-you/

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                              Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
                              But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
                              Than a fool in the eyes of God


                              From "Fools Gold" by Petra

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                              • Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
                                Ya know, this is a good example of the fact that you are often a total stranger to the truth. You're either ignorant, or an outright liar.



                                So, go ahead and say it, Tazzy. I double dog dare you. Say that you believe Jimmy is intelligent! In fact, admit that he's as smart as you are!
                                Jim is intelligent and insightful, which is more than one can say for you with your constant carping and 'put-downs' which pass for debate in CP land.
                                “He felt that his whole life was a kind of dream and he sometimes wondered whose it was and whether they were enjoying it.” - Douglas Adams.

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