Triumph of Trump: NFL kneeling

[One Bad Pig]

Well, at least its sinking in that the flag was in fact the target in spite of all the denials being sputtered now.

A more probable explanation is that Tassman managed to score another own goal.

[Psychic Missile]

The whole "hands up don't shoot" think is bogus. I thought you were a little more concerned about facts than fantasy.

I know that hands up don't shoot refers to something specific that didn't happen. That's a minor detail of a single case.

[Psychic Missile]

Except there aren't "many" and they're only high-profile because the media magnifies them all out of proportion.

I don't recall any stories of police using dead black men for target practice, though.

I consider at least 10 to be many. The media magnifies them because they're contentious so they generate interest/clicks/eyes.

[Tassman]

Well, at least its sinking in that the flag was in fact the target in spite of all the denials being sputtered now.

[Cow Poke]

So, what, exactly, is being accomplished by these rebels? Like most liberals, they manage to do something stupid that brings attention to themselves, creates even more controversy, gets both sides stirs up, and accomplishes nothing at all. But they FEEL good about it.

The fact that you seem to think they're actually accomplishing something (Didn't Jimmy, your smarter little brother, actually say they were "saving lives"? ) is merely a Clintonian fantasy.

[Mountain Man]

I know that hands up don't shoot refers to something specific that didn't happen. That's a minor detail of a single case.

A minor detail? It's the entire basis of the Black Lives Matter movement!

[JimL]

A minor detail? It's the entire basis of the Black Lives Matter movement!

Yeah, thats one of the points, but not the entire basis, that the BLM movement is trying to make. Do you think that black people are treated equally by the criminal justice system, both by the police and the courts? Or are you just a racist who turns a blind eye to the obvious injustice against black people.

[shunyadragon]

People are pissed off because NFL players are disrespecting the Flag and National Anthem.

Some people . . .

NFL leadership acknowledges the right of players to protest.

[cite=http://money.cnn.com/2017/10/18/news/companies/nfl-national-anthem-protests-roger-goodell/index.html]

NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell says players aren't trying to be "disrespectful to the flag" when they kneel during the National Anthem. But the league still believes they should stand.

Goodell, speaking to reporters after a two-day owners meeting in New York, announced no plans to change the league's policy. It says that players should stand for the Anthem, but it does not require them to.
The players "will state to you, and they have stated to everyone publicly, they are not doing this in any way to be disrespectful to the flag," Goodell said. "But they also understand how it's being interpreted."
Last season, then-49ers quarterback Colin Kaepernick began kneeling during the Anthem to protest racial injustice, particularly the killing of black Americans by police.

President Trump, who has criticized the protesting players and encouraged owners to fire anyone who takes a knee, went after the NFL again on Wednesday morning. [/cote]

[rogue06]

Some people . . .

NFL leadership acknowledges the right of players to protest.

[cite=http://money.cnn.com/2017/10/18/news/companies/nfl-national-anthem-protests-roger-goodell/index.html]

NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell says players aren't trying to be "disrespectful to the flag" when they kneel during the National Anthem. But the league still believes they should stand.

Goodell, speaking to reporters after a two-day owners meeting in New York, announced no plans to change the league's policy. It says that players should stand for the Anthem, but it does not require them to.
The players "will state to you, and they have stated to everyone publicly, they are not doing this in any way to be disrespectful to the flag," Goodell said. "But they also understand how it's being interpreted."
Last season, then-49ers quarterback Colin Kaepernick began kneeling during the Anthem to protest racial injustice, particularly the killing of black Americans by police.

President Trump, who has criticized the protesting players and encouraged owners to fire anyone who takes a knee, went after the NFL again on Wednesday morning. [/cote]

Most people.

And while nearly everyone completely agrees with the players having the right to protest that doesn't mean that people don't also have the right to protest their protest by refusing to watch or attend games, not buying NFL gear and memorabilia and yes even saying they'd like to see them get fired as a result.

[Mountain Man]

Do you think that black people are treated equally by the criminal justice system, both by the police and the courts?

Yes.

Or are you just a racist who turns a blind eye to the obvious injustice against black people.

Not that you're begging the question or anything.

[One Bad Pig]

I consider at least 10 to be many. The media magnifies them because they're contentious so they generate interest/clicks/eyes.

10? Out of a population of well over 300 million?

[Tassman]

So, what, exactly, is being accomplished by these rebels? Like most liberals, they manage to do something stupid that brings attention to themselves, creates even more controversy, gets both sides stirs up, and accomplishes nothing at all.

But they FEEL good about it.

Yes, they're like children, these blacks. <sarcasm>

The fact that you seem to think they're actually accomplishing something (Didn't Jimmy, your smarter little brother, actually say they were "saving lives"? ) is merely a Clintonian fantasy.

Sigh! .So snide... Very

[JimL]

Yes.

Well, as is the usual case, you would be wrong.

Not that you're begging the question or anything.

Actually I'm assuming that you must either be a racist, or you're in denial.

[Psychic Missile]

A minor detail? It's the entire basis of the Black Lives Matter movement!

It was one of the things that lead to it, but not the only thing. Absent that chant, the BLM movement would still exist.

[Cow Poke]

NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell says....

Goodell is trying desperately to save pro football. At this point, I wouldn't trust anything he says any further than you can throw a wide receiver.