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    Quote Originally Posted by Cow Poke View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hornet View Post
    I was talking with one of my non-Christian friends and he asked me these questions and I would like to know how you would answer them.

    God commanded the Israelites to make war against and kill the Canaanites. Suppose that God speaks to people today. If God were to tell you to kill someone or group of people in order to execute judgment for their sin, would you do it?
    No, I would rebuke that lying demonic entity that pretended to speak for my Father.


    When God commanded the Israelites to kill the Canaanites, was He commanding them to commit murder?
    No.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hornet View Post
    God commanded the Israelites to make war against and kill the Canaanites. Suppose that God speaks to people today. If God were to tell you to kill someone or group of people in order to execute judgment for their sin, would you do it?
    I would ask not to have problem of ruling over people. "Make someone else king, like Darth!!!"

    When God commanded the Israelites to kill the Canaanites, was He commanding them to commit murder?
    If God commands, how can it be wrong?
    Trump is basically "Bruce Wayne pretending to be a foppish retarded billionaire" tier genius, in case nerds need a simpler metaphor.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NorrinRadd View Post
    No, I would rebuke that lying demonic entity that pretended to speak for my Father.
    That wasn't the scenario.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Darth Executor View Post
    That wasn't the scenario.
    It is the closest scenario possible under the Covenant to which I am party.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hornet View Post
    The Israelites were murdering people because they were executing God's judgment. Is that correct?
    No, the ten commandments say "do not murder", the point is that a different word is used there in contrast to us being told the Israelites did not kill the Gibeonites.

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    Divine command theory teaches that whatever God teaches is just, no matter what. I believe that was the point of God commanding Abraham to sacrifice Isaac.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KingsGambit View Post
    Divine command theory teaches that whatever God teaches is just, no matter what.
    But the OP was not about whether it would be "just." It was whether we would do it. The NT explicitly says that *at least* as far as beliefs are concerned, our the weapons we are to use are not those that apply to "flesh and blood."

    As far as "sin" and "judgment" are concerned, it also tells us the remedy we are to apply: The preaching of the Gospel.


    I believe that was the point of God commanding Abraham to sacrifice Isaac.
    Maybe. But Hebrews at least suggests that Abraham obeyed because he expected I AM to raise the dead and return his son after the sacrifice.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KingsGambit View Post
    Divine command theory teaches that whatever God teaches is just, no matter what. I believe that was the point of God commanding Abraham to sacrifice Isaac.
    God does not arbitrarily decide what is right or wrong. God's law is a reflection of His nature. What He commands is a reflection of His nature. God would not command anyone to sin.

    I think God commanded Abraham to sacrifice Isaac in order to test his faith. God had the right to take Isaac's life and God had the right to command Abraham to sacrifice Isaac. Is this correct?

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