Harvey Weinstein: Another Good Liberal...

[Darth Executor]

pedophilia is definitely related to promoting gay rights. even ultraliberal wikipedia mentions it.

[Tassman]

pedophilia is definitely related to promoting gay rights. even ultraliberal wikipedia mentions it.

[rogue06]

Uh no, Fox style! Unlike Fox, CNN regularly utilises balanced panels to reflect views from all sides.

[Mountain Man]

CNN regularly utilises balanced panels to reflect views from all sides.

They sure have you fooled!

[tabibito]

An evidence based assessment would have taken the CNN's "Trump and the koi" scandal into account. It shows just how impartial CNN's really is.

[Adrift]

It seems the world of music, at least, is less forgiving.

I remember when Gary Glitter got arrested the first time, the NFL made teams stop using Rock and Roll Pt. 2 at games. Eventually, this restriction got relaxed until he got arrested again. He's persona non grata again.

When Lostprophets singer Ian Watkins got arrested, the rest of the band immediately broke up as they felt the band name was stained.

To be fair, what Glitter and Watkins did are far worse than anything Weinstein has been accused of.

I don't know. Seems like most bands up until relatively recent times were known for exploiting underaged groupies, and were seen as superstars for their sexual exploits. I'm waiting to see if this fire spreads to the music and sports industries.

[One Bad Pig]

Source: Slimy Similarities Between Weinstein and the DNC Are No Coincidence

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[Sparko]

Huh. Looks like they're going to edit him out anyway.

Never question the Pirate!

[tabibito]

Subject him to an inquisition with accompanying tortures yes, but never merely question him.

[Sparko]

Subject him to an inquisition with accompanying tortures yes, but never merely question him.

Walk the plank, ye scurvy dog!

[Mountain Man]

I don't know. Seems like most bands up until relatively recent times were known for exploiting underaged groupies, and were seen as superstars for their sexual exploits. I'm waiting to see if this fire spreads to the music and sports industries.

The NFL is already having its own problems.

[Darth Executor]

The International LBGT Association rejected NAMBLA's membership.

THey finally threw them out and it took considerable arm twisting for them to do so.

Paedophiles are not just homosexual but male homosexuals rape children (albeit not necessarily prepubescent children so it's just child rape rather than pedophilia specifically) at much higher rates than the general population.

[Cow Poke]

THey finally threw them out and it took considerable arm twisting for them to do so.a

And I think it had a whole lot more to do with optics than convictions.

[seer]

Louis C.K.'s Movie Premiere Canceled in Advance of N.Y. Times Story

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/new...-story-1056585

[rogue06]

*SIGH*

Here we go yet again. The gay rights movement's connections to NAMBLA are extensive as I had to show Starlight (once again) after he played the denial game

What is with you and your obsession with this false claim? It's been debunked time and again on this forum.



What is with you guys and your general obsession with NAMBLA? Seriously, it's pretty weird.

Really?

It's roots are much deeper. From Journal of Homosexuality in 1991:

Source: Man/Boy Love and the American Gay Movement

Abstract

The issue of man/boy love has intersected the gay movement since the late nineteenth century, with the rise of the first gay rights movement in Germany. In the United States, as the gay movement has retreated from its vision of sexual freedom for all in favor of integration into existing social and political structures, it has sought to marginalize cross-generational love as a "non-gay" issue. The two movements continue to overlap, amid signs of mutual support as well as tension - a state of affairs that also characterizes their interrelationship in other countries. This article offers an overview and analysis of that interrelationship in the United States since the Stonewall Riots in New York City in June 1969, which marked the beginning of a reinvigorated struggle for gay liberation.

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And from your source:

Your only defense was to say that NAMBLA got booted out of participating in events like some gay pride marches^[1] conveniently overlooking the fact that they were part of, and the founder of NAMBLA, David Thorstad, had even been invited to be the keynote speaker at. Then the leaders of the gay rights movement realized that they had to jettison their longtime allies if they ever were going to succeed in normalizing gay behavior.

That they had marched arm-and-arm together for quite some time is attested to by the International Lesbian and Gay Association (ILGA) acknowledgement that NAMBLA played an integral part of the gay rights movement for at least a decade stating in 1994.

NAMBLA has been a member of the International Lesbian and Gay Association for 10 years. We've been continuously active in ILGA longer than any other US organization. NAMBLA delegates to ILGA helped write ILGA's constitution, its official positions on the sexual rights of youth, and its stands against sexual coercion and corporal punishment. We are proud of our contributions in making ILGA a stronger voice for the international gay and lesbian movement and for sexual justice.

In spite of this proud history, four of ILGA's six secretariats, meeting in New York, November 5-7, have request NAMBLA to resign and stated that they will seek its expulsion by the general membership this summer unless it complies.

IOW, NAMBLA had been a member in good standing of ILGA, and only after that latter group sought consultative status with the United Nations, were accepted and then suspended when their close relationship with NAMBLA was discovered, were they tossed aside, as the gay rights magazine The Advocate describes it, "revoking NAMBLA's ten-year membership in the worldwide group."

Oops.

In fact NAMBLA arose out of the the "Boston-Boise Committee," which was a gay rights organization, and their reaction to the arrest of 24 men for having sex with minors during a raid on a house in the late 70s (which they termed the "Boston witchunt"), in order to promote solidarity among gay men, declaring in an official leaflet that:"The Gay Community Fights Back" and "The closet is weak. There is strength in unity and openness."

And as I've previously noted there were many outspoken prominent gay activists who were upset with this and refused to throw their comrades under the bus such as the poet Allen Ginsberg with his "Attacks on NAMBLA stink of politics, witchhunting for profit, humorlessness, vanity, anger and ignorance" remark. And prominent American gay rights activist, Harry Hay, sometimes referred to as the "Father of Gay Liberation" wearing his "NAMBLA walks with me" sign at the 1986 Los Angeles Gay Pride Parade after NAMBLA was excluded.

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Even more telling were his remarks at the 1983 NAMBLA conference in New York where he proclaimed:

"If the parents and friends of gays are truly friends of gays, they would know from their gay kids that the relationship with an older man is precisely what thirteen-, fourteen-, and fifteen-year-old kids need more than anything else in the world"

Need more or are you still in denial?

How about Michael Kearns' 1988 article "Men Loving Boys" in the Los Angeles gay magazine Edge where he said that

"Discrimination among ourselves is profoundly self destructive. NAMBLA deserves to be heard and respected"

"Respected"?

In the Bay Area Reporter (BAR -- the oldest as well as one of the largest circulation pro-gay newspapers by circulation in the United States), Steve Hanson declared in a 1992 article "Shame on Us":

"Shame on us if our lesbian/gay voices remain silent while our NAMBLA brothers are persecuted once again, and shame on those lesbians and gay men who will raise their voices to condemn NAMBLA, insisting that boy lovers (and presumably the boys they love and who love them) are not part of this thing called the lesbian/gay community."

Scott O'Hara (real name John Robert Scott), the gay porno actor and activist who published the quarterly gay sex magazine Steam wrote

"In the efforts of the gay establishment to suppress NAMBLA I see the seeds of tyranny."

James Lynn 'Jim' Kepner, regarded as a pioneer of the U.S. gay rights movement, curator of the International Gay and Lesbian Archives in Los Angeles which became a major part of ONE National Gay & Lesbian Archives (called the premier source for gay and lesbian research), wrote



In his 1991 book The Big Gay Book: A Man's Survival Guide for the 90s, John D. Preston, described as a pioneer in the early gay rights movement in Minneapolis, Minnesota who helped found one of the earliest gay community centers in the United States, was still promoting NAMBLA when he tells his readers

"Sex between youths and adults is one of the most difficult issues in the gay movement. When does a youngster have the right and the power to make his own sexual decisions? How are laws against intergenerational sex used specifically to target gay men? What are the issues that make the romantic image of the Greek teacher and his student in times of antiquity turn into something ugly and forbidden in the modern age? If you want to explore these issues, NAMBLA is the organization that will supply you with brochures, thought-provoking books and booklets."

Around the same time the founder of the AIDS Coalition to Unleash Power (ACT-UP) was blaming the victims of pedophiles in order to justify it as recounted in Reports from the Holocaust: The Story of an AIDS Activist a book about on AIDS activism and gay rights:

"In those cases where children do have sex with their homosexual elders... I submit that often, very often, the child desires the activity, and perhaps even solicits it, either because of a natural curiosity."

Likewise the French philosopher Michel Foucault with an apparent fondness for the sado-masochistic gay scene, made similar claims

"It is quite difficult to lay down barriers [particularly since] it could be that the child, with his own sexuality, may have desired the adult."

Samuel Delany, a noted Science Fiction author who has won 4 Nebula and 2 Hugo awards, and an outspoken gay activist wrote in the Queer Desires Forum in 1994:

*Mild language warning*

"I read The NAMBLA Bulletin fairly regularly and I think it is one of the most intelligent discussions of sexuality I've ever found. ... Before you start judging what NAMBLA is about, expose yourself to it and see what it is really about, the issues they are really talking about; and deal with what's really there rather than this demonized notion of guys running about trying to screw little boys. I would have been so much happier as an adolescent if NAMBLA had been around when I was 9, 10, 11, 12, 13."

In a 1994 issue of the national gay magazine 10 Percent Magazine, one of NAMBLA's founders boasted, David Thorstad boasted

"If it weren't for us [pedophiles], there wouldn't be a gay movement. If the leaders of the gay movement today want to turn their backs on the spirit of gay liberation, f- them. We're speaking the truth, and the truth is that man boy love is a central part of gay liberation, and it is a central feature of homosexuality in the West."

ETA: And, btw, I cannot help but notice how you always overlooked this part of my original post when it is brought up

And the 1972 Gay Rights Platform, created at the National Coalition of Gay Organizations Convention (represented by some 200 gay rights groups) held in Chicago of that year, called for "Repeal of all laws governing the age of sexual consent" (#7 of actions to be taken at the state level). To the best of my knowledge, none of the organizations involved or their successors have ever repudiated this platform including the call to eliminate an age of consent.

To add to that back in 1984 a Philadelphia bookstore sold a book entitled How to Have Sex With Kids by the Howard Nichols Society (run by David Sonenschein, a former consultant to the 1970 Presidential Committee on Obscenity and Pornography!), which included instructions on how to both entice and kidnap small children, how to have sex with them, and even how to intimidate and threaten them into silence. The gay community proclaimed that the book was protected by the First Amendment and generally refused to either disavow the contents of the book or to criticize the writers, publishers, or distributors of it.







1. After being disinvited for political expediency NAMBLA was nevertheless still invited to participate in other gay pride marches such as the Spirit of Stonewall (SOS) parade. Long time gay activist and civil libertarian Bill Dobbs was extremely vocal in his defense of their participation.

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NAMBLA at the SOS parade