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Nope, it's the facts, Jack. Just because you don't like them doesn't make them irrelevant. ILGA was totally aware that they had pedophile organizations, but did notting about them until they were called out by the likes of Jesse Helms.
But, please, continue the dishonest....
animated-penguins1-1z3y8nn.gifThe first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by Cow Poke View PostNope, it's the facts, Jack. Just because you don't like them doesn't make them irrelevant. ILGA was totally aware that they had pedophile organizations, but did notting about them until they were called out by the likes of Jesse Helms.
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Originally posted by Tassmoron View PostILGA never endorsed pedophilia and expelled the three pedophile organisations that had infiltrated its ranks...Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
Than a fool in the eyes of God
From "Fools Gold" by Petra
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Nope - nothing misleading at all. Present the facts is honest good policy. IGNORING the facts is what you're doing in support of your own personal agenda.
There is no link and has not been for 23 years.
The rest is your spin.
THe "facts Jack" are: "It's very clear that every major U.S. gay leader has condemned NAMBLA and condemned groups that promote pedophilia," David Smith, a spokesman for the National Gay and Lesbian Task Force said in 1994 at the time NAMBLA was expelled from ILGA.
http://www.nwitimes.com/uncategorize...b1678fb85.html
But this won't keep you from distorting the truth and the facts and continue your....
psychedelic_trip_spin-animated.gifThe first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by Mountain Man View PostInfiltrated? ILGA knowingly welcomed pedophiles with open arms, without pretense, and they mutually supported each other for a decade, only "condemning" pedophiles when it became politically costly. If they had a moral problem with pedophilia then they would have condemned them without prompting long before that.The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by Cow Poke View PostNope - nothing misleading at all. Present the facts is honest good policy. IGNORING the facts is what you're doing in support of your own personal agenda.
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Originally posted by Tassman View PostThe facts are that ILGA has never endorsed paedophilia, which you've acknowledged, and it expelled all three paedophile groups from ILGA 23 years years ago. I honestly don't know what point you're trying to make? There isn't a point.
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Originally posted by Sparko View Posthe never said they endorsed Pedophilia, he said they supported Pedophilia groups by allowing them into ILGA. They implicitly condoned it.The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by Tassman View PostThe facts are that ILGA has never endorsed paedophilia,
which you've acknowledged,
and it expelled all three paedophile groups from ILGA 23 years years ago.
I honestly don't know what point you're trying to make? There isn't a point.
But, you'll keep spinning, and I'll keep correcting!The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by Zymologist View PostLet's not forget JimL's argument that NAMBLA doesn't endorse pedophilia. At least, that we know of.The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by Cow Poke View PostThat we know of. You really don't know.
I don't know of any public statement by ILGA endorsing pedophilia,but there's no doubt that SEVERAL pedophile groups were part of their membership.
http://www.nwitimes.com/uncategorize...b1678fb85.html
AFTER they were outed by Jesse Helms Helms.The point is that you keep purposely leaving out FACTS in order to support your agenda, and that's dishonest.But, you'll keep spinning, and I'll keep correcting!
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Originally posted by Tassman View PostILGA has several times said that it has never endorsed pedophilia. Are you saying they are lying?
Yeah, well, maybe it's like your buddy Hillary who promotes a public policy and a private policy that conflict.
Check this out - NAMBLA's website states that it is a political, civil rights, and educational organization whose goal is to end "the extreme oppression of men and boys in mutually consensual relationships".
Do you buy THAT? And they don't publicly state that they support pedophilia. Are they lying?
Yes, three pedophile groups infiltrated ILGA.
You're back to the "gays and lesbians are really stupid people" argument.
ILGA had been concerned about its association with NAMBLA since the late 1980s and had urged the group to resign. In 1990, at the behest of member organizations from Scandinavia, Australia and New Zealand, ILGA adopted a resolution denouncing pedophilia, he said.
http://www.nwitimes.com/uncategorize...b1678fb85.html
Yes, it took EXTERNAL pressure to make ILGA expel NAMBA. We agree on that.
They should never have been there.
More spin. What do you expect him to say - "well, yeah, we allowed them in, but now we have a different position?" OF COURSE he's going to put the best spin on it.
Nonsense!
It is YOU that keep purposely leaving out FACTS in order to support your agenda...
My agenda is to reveal your dishonesty. I do that with facts, not goofy theories.
Just what is being spun here CP?The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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