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    Quote Originally Posted by Cow Poke View Post


    After the fact, ILGA, caught red-handed with a bunch of perverts in their group, is naturally going to do the same thing you're doing -- putting lipstick on the pig.

    They knew all along they had the pedophiles with them, and were debating what to do about it.
    You’re determined to put the worst possible spin on it. Why do you feel the need to do this? ILGA has explained how NAMBA ended up under its umbrella as one of hundreds of self-governing organisations... namely poor vetting procedures. ILGA says so and I see no reason to doubt them. Why do you? It's not as though ILGA endorses pedophilia, quite the contrary.

    “In 1994, ILGA expelled NAMBLA and two other paedophile groups at its World Conference in New York. These groups had joined ILGA at an earlier stage of ILGA’s development, at a time when ILGA did not have in place administrative procedures to scrutinize the constitutions and policies of groups seeking membership. At no time, however, did ILGA support or endorse their positions, and these groups were expelled precisely because their aims were incompatible with those of ILGA.

    http://ilga.org/ilga-ecosoc-status-controversy
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tassman View Post
    You’re determined to put the worst possible spin on it.
    Actually, I'm just citing facts. You're the one who seems desperate to put a spin on it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cow Poke View Post
    Actually, I'm just citing facts. You're the one who seems desperate to put a spin on it.
    The “facts” are straightforward. At no time did ILGA support or endorse NAMBLA’s agenda and these groups were expelled precisely because their aims were incompatible with those of ILGA.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tassman View Post
    The “facts” are straightforward.
    And I posted them verbatim.

    At no time did ILGA support or endorse NAMBLA’s agenda
    You're trying to prove a negative. You don't know that.

    and these groups were expelled precisely because their aims were incompatible with those of ILGA.
    That's not what the record shows. That's your interpretation. So, I post facts, you post opinions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tassman View Post
    The “facts” are straightforward. At no time did ILGA support or endorse NAMBLA’s agenda and these groups were expelled precisely because their aims were incompatible with those of ILGA.
    But according to JimL, NAMBLA's agenda is either unknown, or no big deal.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cow Poke View Post


    That's not what the record shows. That's your interpretation. So, I post facts, you post opinions.
    What the record shows is that at no time did ILGA support or endorse NAMBLA’s agenda and these groups were expelled precisely because their aims were incompatible with those of ILGA.

    http://ilga.org/ilga-ecosoc-status-controversy
    Last edited by Tassman; 12-03-2017 at 04:44 AM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tassman View Post
    What the record shows is that at no time did ILGA support or endorse NAMBLA’s agenda and these groups were expelled precisely because their aims were incompatible with those of ILGA.

    http://ilga.org/ilga-ecosoc-status-controversy
    You can keep saying that over and over, but you're using their own website as "proof" of a negative. Naturally, they wouldn't want any record of such. Other sources, as cited, however, show that there was internal consternation the entire time that NAMBLA AND OTHER PEDOPHILE GROUPS were members. And the vote to expel them was not 100%, and only after Jesse Helms called them out on it.

    But do keep spinning, and I'll keep correcting you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cow Poke View Post
    You can keep saying that over and over, but you're using their own website as "proof" of a negative. Naturally, they wouldn't want any record of such. Other sources, as cited, however, show that there was internal consternation the entire time that NAMBLA AND OTHER PEDOPHILE GROUPS were members. And the vote to expel them was not 100%, and only after Jesse Helms called them out on it.

    But do keep spinning, and I'll keep correcting you.
    So are you arguing that ILGA actually supported pedophilia, when it’s specifically denied the pedophile agenda? Why is it so important to you to associate ILGA with pedophiles? Is it guilt by association? Are you hoping that the distaste for pedophiles will rub off on homosexuals? You’ve never answered that question. The fact is that ILGA has had no connection of any sort to pedophile organisations for 23 years, so you're flogging a dead horse.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tassman View Post
    So are you arguing that ILGA actually supported pedophilia,
    Wow. For the umpteenzillionth time - no. And you can't make that case. Aren't you getting dizzy with all that spinning?

    when it’s specifically denied the pedophile agenda?
    When they got caught, yeah, they finally did the right thing. Took 10 years, and lots of internal consternation.

    Why is it so important to you to associate ILGA with pedophiles?
    Why is it so important for you to deny the facts? They WERE, indeed, associated. Its in their own history. Not just NAMBLA, but at least two other groups of pedophiles.

    Is it guilt by association? Are you hoping that the distaste for pedophiles will rub off on homosexuals? You’ve never answered that question. The fact is that ILGA has had no connection of any sort to pedophile organisations for 23 years, so you're flogging a dead horse.
    As long as you keep distorting the facts, I'll be happy to expose your spin.

    Try again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cow Poke View Post
    Wow. For the umpteenzillionth time - no. And you can't make that case. Aren't you getting dizzy with all that spinning?
    You cannot make the case that ILGA supported pedophilia, because it didn’t support pedophilia. You have no argument beyond meaningless innuendo.

    When they got caught, yeah, they finally did the right thing. Took 10 years, and lots of internal consternation.
    “They got caught”. What do you mean “they got caught?

    Why is it so important for you to deny the facts? They WERE, indeed, associated. Its in their own history. Not just NAMBLA, but at least two other groups of pedophiles.
    The most important “fact” of all is that ILGA has never endorsed pedophilia. NAMBLA was expelled in ‘94 and a series of amendments were voted by ILGA members to ensure groups condoning pedophilia would not be able to become members of the federation. ILGA has not had any such group since.

    As long as you keep distorting the facts, I'll be happy to expose your spin.
    The only spin is yours.
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