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    Quote Originally Posted by 37818 View Post
    The disagreement between Christians is over when the Word became the Son. The two main views. 1) The Word was always the Son before the incarnation (John 1:14; John 1:18; John 17:24; 1 John 4:9). 2) The Word became the Son in the incarnation (John 1:14; Luke 1:35).

    The concept of eternal generation came about to explain how the Son was the eternal Son.
    Well God's nature doesn't change, so if he became the son then that would be a significant change in the nature of God.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sparko View Post
    Well God's nature doesn't change, so if he became the son then that would be a significant change in the nature of God.
    A couple things here. 1) I have always and still do hold to the concept of the eternal Son. 2) The Word [who was always the Son] was "made" flesh (John 1:14) that was a change.
    . . . the Gospel of Christ, for it is [the] power of God to salvation to every [one] believing, . . . -- Romans 1:16.

    . . . that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures; And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures: . . . -- 1 Corinthians 15:3, 4.

    Whosoever believeth that Jesus is the Christ is born of God: . . . -- 1 John 5:1.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 37818 View Post
    A couple things here. 1) I have always and still do hold to the concept of the eternal Son. 2) The Word [who was always the Son] was "made" flesh (John 1:14) that was a change.
    God the Son added a human nature but did not change his divine nature.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sparko View Post
    God the Son added a human nature but did not change his divine nature.
    His divine nature never changed (John 1:1, 3). But how He was "with God" (John 1:2) did change. He was "made" flesh (John 1:14). . . . σαρξ εγενετο . . . That was how He changed.
    . . . the Gospel of Christ, for it is [the] power of God to salvation to every [one] believing, . . . -- Romans 1:16.

    . . . that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures; And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures: . . . -- 1 Corinthians 15:3, 4.

    Whosoever believeth that Jesus is the Christ is born of God: . . . -- 1 John 5:1.

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