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  • #16
    Originally posted by Tassmoron View Post
    It was the FBI and other Intelligence Agencies that first alerted the world to Russian Involvement in the 2016 election. This is not in doubt. What is being currently investigated by the Special Counsel is the degree of involvement, if any, by the Trump team. Trying to blame Hillary and the Democrats for the Russian interference is ludicrous (but typical), they were the victims of it.
    Nope. It was Hillary who got the ball rolling on the second debate with her phony claim that "18 intelligence agencies all agree that Russia is totally hacking the election"... or whatever it was. Before that, nobody was was talking about Russia.
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    • #17
      Deeper down the rabbit hole...

      FBI informant blocked from telling Congress about Russia nuclear corruption case, lawyer says
      http://thehill.com/policy/national-s...russia-nuclear
      Last edited by seer; 10-18-2017, 10:06 AM.
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      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbnueb2OI4o&t=3s

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      • #18
        Originally posted by seer View Post
        Deeper down the rabbit hole...
        I have to wonder how long it will be before some of the leading Democrats start saying "you know, this whole Russia thing has just become a big distraction to the more important matters of our Country... why don't we focus more on ....."
        The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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        • #19
          Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
          why don't we focus more on ....."
          Systemic racism?
          Atheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...

          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbnueb2OI4o&t=3s

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          • #20
            Originally posted by seer View Post
            Systemic racism?
            Go stand in the corner. Now!
            The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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            • #21
              Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
              Go stand in the corner. Now!
              Atheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...

              https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbnueb2OI4o&t=3s

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              • #22
                Interesting:
                Source: Louis DeBroux

                Democrats being forced to admit there is no evidencereportsauthorized the saleraked in $145 million in donations from nine shareholders in Uranium One.

                Meanwhile, the genesis of the Trump/Russia collusion claim lies in a dossier compiled by former British intelligence agent Christopher Steele. Despite the claims in the dossier being either thoroughly debunked or still without corroborating evidence, a special counsel, in the form of former FBI Director Robert Mueller, was assigned to investigate.

                And while any claims of interference in the internal political processes of our nation must be taken seriously, what must also be taken seriously is the increasingly evident reality that high-ranking Democrats, including Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton, were themselves the instigators of the very collusion they now seek to obfuscate.

                The infamous Steele dossier that set these accusations ablaze was assembled on behalf of Fusion GPS, a firm that specializes in political opposition research. So it would seem obvious that the best way to get to the truth is to have the principals at Fusion GPS testify as to their knowledge regarding collusion.

                That has become very difficult, however, as lawyers for Fusion GPS CEO Glenn Simpson say he refuses to testify, invoking his Fifth Amendment right against self-incrimination. By its own admission, Fusion GPS lobbied for a Russian companyloaded with Clinton donorsat the direction of former FBI Director James Comeyleaked details of his conversations with President Trump for the purpose, by his own admission, of forcing the appointment of a special counsel to investigate Trump, recommending his buddy and former Obama FBI Director Mueller, who buried the initial findings.

                © Copyright Original Source


                source

                Turns out there's fire behind that smoke after all - it's just on the side which had been hurling accusations with wild abandon earlier. The question is becoming "If Mueller follows the leads, and they go to to Clinton, will he blame Trump anyway?"
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                • #23
                  Originally posted by One Bad Pig View Post
                  Interesting:
                  Source: Louis DeBroux

                  Democrats being forced to admit there is no evidencereportsauthorized the saleraked in $145 million in donations from nine shareholders in Uranium One.

                  Meanwhile, the genesis of the Trump/Russia collusion claim lies in a dossier compiled by former British intelligence agent Christopher Steele. Despite the claims in the dossier being either thoroughly debunked or still without corroborating evidence, a special counsel, in the form of former FBI Director Robert Mueller, was assigned to investigate.

                  And while any claims of interference in the internal political processes of our nation must be taken seriously, what must also be taken seriously is the increasingly evident reality that high-ranking Democrats, including Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton, were themselves the instigators of the very collusion they now seek to obfuscate.

                  The infamous Steele dossier that set these accusations ablaze was assembled on behalf of Fusion GPS, a firm that specializes in political opposition research. So it would seem obvious that the best way to get to the truth is to have the principals at Fusion GPS testify as to their knowledge regarding collusion.

                  That has become very difficult, however, as lawyers for Fusion GPS CEO Glenn Simpson say he refuses to testify, invoking his Fifth Amendment right against self-incrimination. By its own admission, Fusion GPS lobbied for a Russian companyloaded with Clinton donorsat the direction of former FBI Director James Comeyleaked details of his conversations with President Trump for the purpose, by his own admission, of forcing the appointment of a special counsel to investigate Trump, recommending his buddy and former Obama FBI Director Mueller, who buried the initial findings.

                  © Copyright Original Source


                  source

                  Turns out there's fire behind that smoke after all - it's just on the side which had been hurling accusations with wild abandon earlier. The question is becoming "If Mueller follows the leads, and they go to to Clinton, will he blame Trump anyway?"
                  Add to it this from the New York Post:

                  Source: Team Obama�s stunning cover-up of Russian crimes


                  It turns out the Obama administration knew the Russians were engaged in bribery, kickbacks and extortionClinton CashThe New York TimesThe Hill reports that the FBI in 2009 had collected substantial evidenceSource

                  © Copyright Original Source


                  I'm always still in trouble again

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by rogue06 View Post
                    Add to it this from the New York Post:

                    Source: Team Obama�s stunning cover-up of Russian crimes


                    It turns out the Obama administration knew the Russians were engaged in bribery, kickbacks and extortionClinton CashThe New York TimesThe Hill reports that the FBI in 2009 had collected substantial evidenceSource

                    © Copyright Original Source

                    So, Obama was a pathological liar, but just WAY better at it than Trump.
                    The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
                      So, Obama was a pathological liar, but just WAY better at it than Trump.
                      Or that the press automatically assumes Trump is lying and immediately investigates and covers it as compared to Obama who they assumed was a saint and ignored it and covered it up.

                      I'm always still in trouble again

                      "You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
                      "Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
                      "Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by rogue06 View Post
                        Or that the press automatically assumes Trump is lying and immediately investigates and covers it as compared to Obama who they assumed was a saint and ignored it and covered it up.
                        Or both.
                        The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
                          Wow! We are SO fortunate to have somebody who has an inside line to know exactly what the special counsel is and is not investigating!
                          http://www.newsweek.com/russia-collu...mueller-654216

                          Actually, it's not "trying to blame them" for the (alleged) Russian interference - it's pointing out that they may have the same dirt on their own hands.
                          The US Intelligence Community concluded, with high confidence that the Russian government engaged in electoral interference during the 2016 U.S. presidential election. A Jan.'17 assessment by the Director of National Intelligence stated that Russian leadership preferred presidential candidate Donald Trump over Hillary Clinton, and that Russian president Vladimir Putin personally ordered an "influence campaign" to harm Clinton's electoral chances and "undermine public faith in the US democratic process

                          http://nymag.com/selectall/2017/01/r...-election.html
                          Not surprising, though, that you didn't get that.
                          Sigh!

                          Originally posted by rogue06 View Post
                          Or that the press automatically assumes Trump is lying and immediately investigates and covers it.
                          A reasonable assumption given that Trump is demonstrably a compulsive liar.
                          Last edited by Tassman; 10-19-2017, 12:45 AM.

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by Tassman View Post
                            Pathetic!
                            Yes, you really are.
                            The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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                            • #29
                              Soooo... Enter Bill Clinton....



                              Look at that last line in particular! Jimmy - unleash your riotous indignation!!!!
                              The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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                              • #30
                                And there's this...

                                Gregg Jarrett: The Clinton cover-up, brought to you by the same guys who are investigating Trump



                                That kinda sorta sounds like the Russian investigation may be not so good for the Clintonistas!
                                The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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