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  • #31
    Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
    And there's this...

    Gregg Jarrett: The Clinton cover-up, brought to you by the same guys who are investigating Trump

    Source: FoxNews

    Damning new evidence appears to show that Hillary Clinton used her office as Secretary of State to confer benefits to Russia in exchange for millions of dollars in donations to her foundation and cash to her husband.

    But there’s more. It seems it was all covered up for years by the same three people who are now involved in the investigation of President Donald Trump over so-called Russian “collusion.”

    The incriminating evidence was uncovered by The Hill (John Solomon and Alison Spann) and Circa News (Sara Carter). Their dogged reporting reveals that the FBI gathered a multitude of documents, secret recordings, intercepted emails, financial records, and eyewitnesses accounts showing that Russian nuclear officials directed millions of dollars to the Clinton Foundation and hundreds of thousands of dollars to Bill Clinton during the very time that Hillary Clinton presided over a governing body which unanimously approved the sale of one-fifth of America’s uranium supply to Russia.

    © Copyright Original Source



    That kinda sorta sounds like the Russian investigation may be not so good for the Clintonistas!
    Ckinton was hated by Putin. What does any of this have to do with Putin’s active support for Trump’s campaign, which is not in doubt, and his personal animosity against Hillary which has been well established?

    “Putin, the former KGB operative hates Trump’s Democratic rival, Hillary Clinton, with such a passion that he wants to embarrass her personally and undermine — if not derail - her presidential campaign”.

    https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news...linton-n617236

    The only thing in doubt is whether or not Trump or his advisors colluded in this. That’s what’s being investigated by the Special Counsel. The rest of the conspiracy theory crap is merely a Trumpian-style diversion trying, as usual, to blame others.
    “He felt that his whole life was a kind of dream and he sometimes wondered whose it was and whether they were enjoying it.” - Douglas Adams.

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    • #32


      It's like, "Look, Tass, here's conclusive evidence that the sky is blue!" And he responds, "But how does that prove the sky is really pink with purple spots?"

      I can't believe you're dumb enough to fall for the "Putin hated the Clintons" lie when he was bribing them with millions of dollars and negotiating sweetheart deals with Hillary's State Department. Hillary as Secretary of State was the best thing to happen to Russia in decades.
      Last edited by Mountain Man; 10-20-2017, 06:28 AM.
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      But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
      Than a fool in the eyes of God


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      • #33
        Originally posted by Tassman View Post
        Ckinton was hated by Putin.
        It's amusing that you have appointed yourself the final authority on who loves whom and who supports whom and who's acceptable to whom.

        You hate babies and kittens.
        The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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        • #34
          The more the liberals dig into Trump, the worse they make themselves look.

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          • #35
            Originally posted by Tassman View Post
            ...there is broad agreement that “collusion”...
            you-keep-using-that-word.jpg
            The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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            • #36
              Originally posted by Mountain Man View Post


              It's like, "Look, Tass, here's conclusive evidence that the sky is blue!" And he responds, "But how does that prove the sky is really pink with purple spots?"

              I can't believe you're dumb enough to fall for the "Putin hated the Clintons" lie when he was bribing them with millions of dollars and negotiating sweetheart deals with Hillary's State Department. Hillary as Secretary of State was the best thing to happen to Russia in decades.
              It is hardly inconceivable that someone can loathe someone and still be bribing them as long as you were getting what you wanted


              Meanwhile... there is an interesting column at the Daily Beast about how the FBI broke up a deep cover Russian spy ring on the East Coast that had targeted Hillary: Hillary Clinton’s Russian Ghost Stories

              As with any secretary of state, Hillary Clinton would be a primary target under any circumstance. But she was much more. She was a known quantity: predictable, vain and ruthless, and with an insatiable desire for cash to enrich her family, friends, and political machine. Blindly ambitious to become president of the world’s only superpower and swearing to come back after losing in 2008 to Barack Obama, she was the 21st century KGB’s perfect mark.


              Clinton pledged at Foggy Bottom to “reset” relations with the Putin-controlled regime. She blamed the former George W. Bush administration for the bad feelings. To the Kremlin’s relief, she opposed what would become the Magnitsky Act to sanction Russian criminal oligarchs and regime figures. Weeks into her tenure as secretary, she told Russian television, “our goal is to help strengthen Russia.”

              She immediately used her position as America’s top diplomat to pour Russia-related money into her family foundation. One of her earliest acts as secretary of state was personally to authorize the State Department to arrange for 28 American tech CEOs and venture capitalists – 17 of them Clinton Foundation donors – to visit a Russian high-tech hub called Skolkovo. With Skolkovo, the SVR doesn’t need to steal when it can arrange legal purchases. The US military calls Skolkovo “an overt alternative to clandestine industrial espionage.” The Skolkovo visit, which reportedly began as a Clinton Foundation initiative, occurred in May, 2010, a month before the arrests.

              Four days before the FBI would break up the ring, on June 24, Obama personally met with his Russian counterpart, Dmitry Medvedev, to coordinate billions of dollars in deals with Kremlin-affiliated businesses. Putin held power behind the scenes as prime minister, between his terms as president.

              At the time, Obama was pushing a bilateral Civil Nuclear Cooperation Agreement, which it argued would help stop Iran from developing nuclear weapons. And, subject to Clinton’s approval, the Russians were in the process of taking control of Uranium One – and taking one-fifth of America’s annual uranium output.

              The Government Accountability Institute’s Peter Schweizer discovered the Clinton connection to the Kremlin-connected investment bank and to the approval of US uranium to the agency that controls Russia’s nuclear warhead production. Stakeholders in Uranium One, Schweizer found, would pump $145 million into the Clinton foundation and its sponsored projects.

              So Hillary Clinton was mining Kremlin cash for her personal benefit while secretary of state, at the exact time Putin’s SVR spies were targeting her and penetrating her inner circle. She had every personal motivation to make the spy problem disappear and deny that she had been a target.


              And what did Hillary do when the spy ring was broken up?

              An unnamed Hillary Clinton spokesman told ABC News that there was “no reason to think the Secretary was a target of this spy ring.”

              That was a lie.

              State Department spokesman Phil Gordon brushed off the spy ring as old news: “I don’t think anyone was hugely shocked to know that some vestiges of old attempts to use intelligence are still there.” Breaking the spy network, he said, was “a law enforcement action.” Gordon’s implication was that it had nothing to do with the department Clinton headed.

              That didn’t explain why Clinton stayed silent and worked hard to return the 10 spies back to Moscow, before any could be put on trial or turned by the FBI. Or why Clinton settled for a very poor bargain in a one-sided spy swap. But other evidence does.

              I'm always still in trouble again

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              • #37
                Yeah, this is a HUGE story that implicates the Obama administration in potential treason... so naturally the mainstream media is studiously ignoring it
                Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
                But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
                Than a fool in the eyes of God


                From "Fools Gold" by Petra

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
                  It's amusing that you have appointed yourself the final authority on who loves whom and who supports whom and who's acceptable to whom.
                  Nope, I haven't. No need!

                  “DNC Email Hack: Why Vladimir Putin Hates Hillary Clinton”

                  https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news...linton-n617236

                  Why Putin hates Hillary. “Behind the allegations of a Russian hack of the DNC is the Kremlin leader's fury at Clinton for challenging the fairness of Russian elections”.

                  http://www.politico.com/story/2016/0...n-putin-226153

                  “Vladimir Putin's Bad Blood With Hillary Clinton...”

                  http://time.com/4422723/putin-russia-hillary-clinton/

                  Etc, etc, etc.
                  “He felt that his whole life was a kind of dream and he sometimes wondered whose it was and whether they were enjoying it.” - Douglas Adams.

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by Tassman View Post
                    Nope, I haven't. No need!

                    “DNC Email Hack: Why Vladimir Putin Hates Hillary Clinton”

                    https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news...linton-n617236

                    Why Putin hates Hillary. “Behind the allegations of a Russian hack of the DNC is the Kremlin leader's fury at Clinton for challenging the fairness of Russian elections”.

                    http://www.politico.com/story/2016/0...n-putin-226153

                    “Vladimir Putin's Bad Blood With Hillary Clinton...”

                    http://time.com/4422723/putin-russia-hillary-clinton/

                    Etc, etc, etc.
                    Unfortunately, you're incapable of grasping the concept that there can be a whole bunch of things going on all at the same time, and they don't have to be "the same".
                    The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by Tassman View Post
                      Nope, I haven't. No need!

                      “DNC Email Hack: Why Vladimir Putin Hates Hillary Clinton”

                      https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news...linton-n617236

                      Why Putin hates Hillary. “Behind the allegations of a Russian hack of the DNC is the Kremlin leader's fury at Clinton for challenging the fairness of Russian elections”.

                      http://www.politico.com/story/2016/0...n-putin-226153

                      “Vladimir Putin's Bad Blood With Hillary Clinton...”

                      http://time.com/4422723/putin-russia-hillary-clinton/

                      Etc, etc, etc.
                      So the hatred seems to have started after the uranium deal went down, when Hillary's State department began messing with Russian politics in an attempt to neuter Putin. At worst, then, Russia's attempt to influence our elections last year is no different than what the US tried to do 6 years ago, which no one then or now seems to have a problem with. Payback's a bitch.
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                      • #41
                        Originally posted by One Bad Pig View Post
                        So the hatred seems to have started after the uranium deal went down, when Hillary's State department began messing with Russian politics in an attempt to neuter Putin. At worst, then, Russia's attempt to influence our elections last year is no different than what the US tried to do 6 years ago, which no one then or now seems to have a problem with. Payback's a bitch.
                        The words of a great american.

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                        • #42
                          Originally posted by JimL View Post
                          The words of a great american.
                          At least great Americans know to capitalize "American".

                          Oh, and Blackberry Smoke.
                          The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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                          • #43
                            Originally posted by One Bad Pig View Post
                            So the hatred seems to have started after the uranium deal went down, when Hillary's State department began messing with Russian politics in an attempt to neuter Putin. At worst, then, Russia's attempt to influence our elections last year is no different than what the US tried to do 6 years ago, which no one then or now seems to have a problem with. Payback's a bitch.
                            The general consensus is that Putin’s hatred of Hillary is grounded her public challenging of the fairness of Russian elections in 2011.
                            “He felt that his whole life was a kind of dream and he sometimes wondered whose it was and whether they were enjoying it.” - Douglas Adams.

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                            • #44
                              Originally posted by Tassman View Post
                              The general consensus...
                              Wow --- whenever Tassy thinks something, it's "the general consensus".
                              The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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                              • #45
                                Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
                                Wow --- whenever Tassy thinks something, it's "the general consensus".
                                And "whenever you think" something, it isn't. But that's just a result of your generally being wrong. Wow.

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