Liberal Atheists are at it again.

[One Bad Pig]

Regardless, you lose.

Let's wait until the game is over before making pronouncements about the outcome, shall we? There are two more shots for a different outcome, and it's not some fly-by-night outfit defending the monument, but a nationally ranked law firm.

[JimL]

Let's wait until the game is over before making pronouncements about the outcome, shall we? There are two more shots for a different outcome, and it's not some fly-by-night outfit defending the monument, but a nationally ranked law firm.

Okay, you lose the first round.

[Cow Poke]

Interesting how these quotes from Lewis, from the atheists perspective, define equally as well the atheists description of the religious. We atheists are out, it's you who are still in the prison, even if you've grown to like it there.

Atheists are simply narrow-minded religious bigots who want their own religion to rule while stamping out all others. Much like the Taliban went across the world destroying relics of other religions.

[JimL]

Atheists are simply narrow-minded religious bigots who want their own religion to rule while stamping out all others. Much like the Taliban went across the world destroying relics of other religions.

Blah Blah Blah.

[Cow Poke]

Blah Blah Blah.

That's about par for the course for your commentary, Jimmy.

The truth remains - atheists (and I should point out it's the militant ones like you, not all atheists) will not be happy until all other religions but their own are destroyed.

[seer]

Well, I'll take the courts decision on that rather than CP"s, Jed's and your opinions seer.

It is not my opinion Jim, it is what the text actually says. It only restricts congress from making a LAW. It does not restrict any public entity from supporting or favoring a religion as the Founders actually did. From the Library of Congress:

Congress appointed chaplains for itself and the armed forces, sponsored the publication of a Bible, imposed Christian morality on the armed forces, and granted public lands to promote Christianity among the Indians. National days of thanksgiving and of "humiliation, fasting, and prayer" were proclaimed by Congress at least twice a year throughout the war. Congress was guided by "covenant theology," a Reformation doctrine especially dear to New England Puritans, which held that God bound himself in an agreement with a nation and its people. This agreement stipulated that they "should be prosperous or afflicted, according as their general Obedience or Disobedience thereto appears." Wars and revolutions were, accordingly, considered afflictions, as divine punishments for sin, from which a nation could rescue itself by repentance and reformation.

The first national government of the United States, was convinced that the "public prosperity" of a society depended on the vitality of its religion. Nothing less than a "spirit of universal reformation among all ranks and degrees of our citizens," Congress declared to the American people, would "make us a holy, that so we may be a happy people."

https://www.loc.gov/exhibits/religion/rel04.html

[Mountain Man]

I believe it was Hamilton who said that the Constitution was only suitable for the governing of a religious and moral people.

[Jedidiah]

I believe it was Hamilton who said that the Constitution was only suitable for the governing of a religious and moral people.

And as we become less moral as a nation the Constitution is being accepted, as written, less and less.

[rogue06]

I believe it was Hamilton who said that the Constitution was only suitable for the governing of a religious and moral people.

John Adams.

Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious People. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other.

[rogue06]

Blah Blah Blah.

By George, I do believe that might be the smartest most logical thing that you've posted in months.

[Psychic Missile]

I'm not sure what answer you're looking for, but I doubt you're going to get it from me: Basically, the Founding Fathers didn't want the power of the law being used to establish an official state religion or prohibit religious expression.

Like I said, it's not hard to understand.

They certainly wanted to prevent situations like the one being discussed here where the courts are used to stamp out religious expression and is exactly the sort of thing Thomas Jefferson promised wouldn't happen when he wrote that there was a wall (the First Amendment) prohibiting the government from taking this sort of action.

How isn't being against the government establishing a state religion or prohibiting religious express focused on protecting religious minorities?

[Psychic Missile]

I'm not sure what you mean. States were free to have tax supported churches, or not. From all I have have read the Founders did not want a national Church, like the Church of England.

Do you think states still retain the right to establish a government-backed church? Would you want them to?

[Jedidiah]

How isn't being against the government establishing a state religion or prohibiting religious express focused on protecting religious minorities?

Does a State Church, say in England, stop other religions or religious minorities from worshiping as they see fit? You are seeing a paper tiger.

[Tassman]

Do you think states still retain the right to establish a government-backed church? Would you want them to?

Good question.

Seer is nostalgically harking back to the pre-Constitution era of the Continental Conferences when there were a lot of religious practices exercised by the states which are not be acceptable today. The Continental Congresses met from 1774 to 1789 in three incarnations until the US Constitution took effect in March 4, 1789 and superseded all previous practices.

[JimL]

That's about par for the course for your commentary, Jimmy.

The truth remains - atheists (and I should point out it's the militant ones like you, not all atheists) will not be happy until all other religions but their own are destroyed.

First of all atheism isn't a religion CP, and second, people are free to believe whatever fairy tale, myths, they like, even if it is ridiculously naive to do so. But just as you believe that all other religions are just fairy tales, we atheists know that your religion is no different than those others. I'm not really sure if I want to destroy them all or not, because doing so just might unleash all of you otherwise immoral people on the world.