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Originally posted by JimL View PostWhy don't you enlighten us all then CP?The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by seer View PostJefferson wasn't a Deist, Deists of that time did not believe God interfered in human affairs. Jefferson did believe He did. He was a generic theist. Two on the Committee were Christian, Adams was raised Calvinist, was Unitarian while Abigail was alive, later went back to his Calvinist roots.I am Punkinhead.
"I have missed you, Oh Grand High Priestess of the Order of the Stirring Pot"
~ Cow Poke aka CP aka Creacher aka ke7ejx's apprentice....
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Originally posted by JimL View PostThat would be enlightenment CP. But thanks for proving you don't know what you're talking about.I am Punkinhead.
"I have missed you, Oh Grand High Priestess of the Order of the Stirring Pot"
~ Cow Poke aka CP aka Creacher aka ke7ejx's apprentice....
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Originally posted by JimL View PostThat would be enlightenment CP. But thanks for proving you don't know what you're talking about.The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by JimL View PostActually he loves nothing better than to, as you put it, wrestle in the mud with me, watch!
Originally posted by JimL View Post...but unless the country was founded as a Christian theocracy, then it wasn't founded as a Christian nation.
A state religion (also called an established religion or official religion) is a religious body or creed officially endorsed by the state. A state with an official religion, while not secular, is not necessarily a theocracy, a country whose rulers have both secular and spiritual authority. State religions are official or government-sanctioned establishments of a religion, but the state does not need be under the control of the religion (as in a theocracy) nor is the state-sanctioned religion necessarily under the control of the state.The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Here is an evangelical site that lends support to ke7ejx's claim about the Jefferson Bible:
https://www.gotquestions.org/Thomas-...son-Bible.html"I am not angered that the Moral Majority boys campaign against abortion. I am angry when the same men who say, "Save OUR children" bellow "Build more and bigger bombers." That's right! Blast the children in other nations into eternity, or limbless misery as they lay crippled from "OUR" bombers! This does not jell." - Leonard Ravenhill
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Originally posted by JimL View PostThat's completely false, Jefferson did not believe in Yahwey, Christ, or the triune God of Christianity. He believed in a supreme being, thought Jesus to be a great moral philosopher, and thats about it. He once, writing to a friend, said that he believed himself to be "a sect unto himself, as far as he knew". You can't be a Christian and not believe in Yahwey, Christ, and the triune god.1Cor 15:34 Come to your senses as you ought and stop sinning; for I say to your shame, there are some who know not God.
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Scripture before Tradition:
but that won't prevent others from
taking it upon themselves to deprive you
of the right to call yourself Christian.
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Originally posted by Cow Poke View PostActually, let's get back to the error of your ways. You said...
There is the proof that you don't understand what a Christian theocracy is. A nation can be a "Christian nation" without being founded as a Christian theocracy.
A state religion (also called an established religion or official religion) is a religious body or creed officially endorsed by the state. A state with an official religion, while not secular, is not necessarily a theocracy, a country whose rulers have both secular and spiritual authority. State religions are official or government-sanctioned establishments of a religion, but the state does not need be under the control of the religion (as in a theocracy) nor is the state-sanctioned religion necessarily under the control of the state.
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Originally posted by tabibito View PostUnitarians would disagree - so would Jehovah's Witnesses, come to that. Then too, there are Trinitarians who do not accept all of the claims made with regard to the trinity or the continuing deity of Christ while he was a man. However, the god of Jefferson was still - in his opinion - the god of the Bible.
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Originally posted by JimL View PostOkay, if you want to split hairs, you are technically correct, technically,
but in any case the U.S. doesn't have an established, or a state religion,
so my point stands, the U.S. was not founded as a Christian nation.The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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