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Genesis 2:2 He rested on the seventh day from all the work he had undertaken.
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Originally posted by MaxVel View PostThe bolded appears to be a direct, unattributed quote from here: http://mythikismos.gr/?cat=4
just after the section break.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017...ight-earliest/
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Originally posted by Adrift View PostYeah, but at least we actually engage with the arguments instead of simply attacking the source as non-credible.
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Originally posted by Tassman View PostWell, you're wrong as usual.
My source was not Carrier, although he's a well qualified scholar, but Dr Hugh Houghton, of the University of Birmingham, who translated the work. He said it was an approach which modern Christians could learn from. "For people teaching the Bible in the fourth century, it's not the literal meaning which is important, it's how it's read allegorically.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017...ight-earliest/
You know plagiarism is against our rules right? If it were more than a few words you would probably have gotten dinged.
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Originally posted by Tassman View Postunsubstantiated premise
Show us why what he said is wrong, with quotes and counter arguments about the points he actually makes. Bet you can't. I'm already up 1-0....>>> Witty remark or snarky quote of another poster goes here <<<...
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Originally posted by Tassman View PostWell, you're wrong as usual.
My source was not Carrier, although he's a well qualified scholar, but Dr Hugh Houghton, of the University of Birmingham, who translated the work. He said it was an approach which modern Christians could learn from. "For people teaching the Bible in the fourth century, it's not the literal meaning which is important, it's how it's read allegorically.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017...ight-earliest/
Tassman: Your Honour, I'm not guilty of breaking the speed limit as I was going 25 over it, not 30 like the officer said.
Judge: Thanks for admitting you broke the law. Case closed, the verdict is guilty....>>> Witty remark or snarky quote of another poster goes here <<<...
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Originally posted by MaxVel View PostYou're an ass. You' re still proving my point. Sailhammer's argument was about what precisely the text means to say, with reference to the Hebrew. Your moaning about inerrancy is a red herring. You might as well argue that noone can know the actual intended meaning of a passage in the Koran if they are a Muslim.
Show us why what he said is wrong, with quotes and counter arguments about the points he actually makes. Bet you can't. I'm already up 1-0.
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Originally posted by Tassman View Post[I] arguing that say, Adam and Eve are merely allegorical figures etc, etc etc?Last edited by Adrift; 11-17-2017, 07:54 PM.
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Originally posted by Adrift View PostHuh? What are you talking about? John Sailhamer didn't suggest a literal seven day creation narrative. I mean, that's the whole reason I brought him up to OBP all the way back in post #68. I figured you knew that, and that's why you decided to jump in with your two cents. What have you been arguing about this whole time?
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Originally posted by JimL View PostMore and more Scholars are coming to the conclusion that Jesus is mythological historocity. I'm no scholar, and I came to that conclusion some 30 or so years ago.
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More and more scholars are coming up with strange stories that do no more than give atheists less and less to disbelieve.
And that's a paraphrase of what one scholar said.1Cor 15:34 Come to your senses as you ought and stop sinning; for I say to your shame, there are some who know not God.
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Scripture before Tradition:
but that won't prevent others from
taking it upon themselves to deprive you
of the right to call yourself Christian.
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1Cor 15:34 Come to your senses as you ought and stop sinning; for I say to your shame, there are some who know not God.
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Scripture before Tradition:
but that won't prevent others from
taking it upon themselves to deprive you
of the right to call yourself Christian.
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