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Genesis 2:2 He rested on the seventh day from all the work he had undertaken.

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  • Originally posted by JimL View Post
    I'm just pointing out a fact. The universe, that god supposedly created for human beings began 14 billion years ago, and yet human beings just came on the scene.
    And?
    . . . the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth; . . . -- Romans 1:16 KJV

    . . . that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures; And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures: . . . -- 1 Corinthians 15:3-4 KJV

    Whosoever believeth that Jesus is the Christ is born of God: . . . -- 1 John 5:1 KJV

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    • Originally posted by 37818 View Post
      And?
      And, that doesn't really make a whole lot of sense if the universe, particularly the earth, was created as a crucible for human beings. First of all the earth, according to the bible, was created and existed prior to everything else in the universe. That's ignorance! The Universe is 14 billion years old, the earth itself is only billions of years old. Dinosuars ruled the earth for millions of years prior to human existence and we human beings have only just arrived. So Genesis itself is convoluted, and even should one wish to argue that it's only poetry, now that the history of the earth is understood, the idea that the universe and the earth was created specifically as a crucible for human beings was obviously nothing more than wishful thinking on the part of a cosmologically ignorant people

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      • Originally posted by 37818 View Post
        Science tells us nothing that actually refutes the direct creation of man and woman by God. What fact of science disallows that event?
        Science tells us a lot. Even Evangelicals admit that.

        “Some conservative scholars are saying publicly that they can no longer believe the Genesis account. Asked how likely it is that we all descended from Adam and Eve, Dennis Venema, a biologist at Trinity Western University, replies: "That would be against all the genomic evidence that we've assembled over the last 20 years, so not likely at all."

        https://www.npr.org/2011/08/09/13895...f-adam-and-eve
        “He felt that his whole life was a kind of dream and he sometimes wondered whose it was and whether they were enjoying it.” - Douglas Adams.

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        • Originally posted by 37818 View Post
          Science tells us nothing that actually refutes the direct creation of man and woman by God. What fact of science disallows that event?
          Science tells us nothing that refutes Santa Claus, nor the tooth fairy, nor the Loch Ness monster, either. That isn't a good reason to believe in any of them.

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          • Originally posted by Tassman View Post
            Science tells us a lot. Even Evangelicals admit that.

            “Some conservative scholars are saying publicly that they can no longer believe the Genesis account. Asked how likely it is that we all descended from Adam and Eve, Dennis Venema, a biologist at Trinity Western University, replies: "That would be against all the genomic evidence that we've assembled over the last 20 years, so not likely at all."

            https://www.npr.org/2011/08/09/13895...f-adam-and-eve
            From the same article
            According to the Bible (Genesis 2:7), this is how humanity began:
            Nope. That is just one of the possible interpretations - and it is indeed not tenable.

            Greater problems arise with the flood account, and still greater with the Tower of Babel account. In the light of the current state of knowledge, the flood could only be given a .00(something) percent likelihood of partial accuracy, and at that it would need to be dated to somewhere between 300 000 and 200 000 years ago. The Tower of Babel seems almost certain to be mythical. (.00000something likelihood at a very generous best.)
            1Cor 15:34 Come to your senses as you ought and stop sinning; for I say to your shame, there are some who know not God.
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            Scripture before Tradition:
            but that won't prevent others from
            taking it upon themselves to deprive you
            of the right to call yourself Christian.

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            • Originally posted by tabibito View Post
              . . . it is indeed not tenable.
              How is Genesis 2:7 not tenable?
              . . . the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth; . . . -- Romans 1:16 KJV

              . . . that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures; And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures: . . . -- 1 Corinthians 15:3-4 KJV

              Whosoever believeth that Jesus is the Christ is born of God: . . . -- 1 John 5:1 KJV

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              • Originally posted by Cerpin Taxt View Post
                Science tells us nothing that refutes Santa Claus, nor the tooth fairy, nor the Loch Ness monster, either. That isn't a good reason to believe in any of them.
                Ah, but the bible tells him so.
                “He felt that his whole life was a kind of dream and he sometimes wondered whose it was and whether they were enjoying it.” - Douglas Adams.

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                • Originally posted by 37818 View Post
                  How is Genesis 2:7 not tenable?
                  I didn't say that Gen 2:7 wasn't tenable, I said that a particular interpretation thereof was not tenable.
                  1Cor 15:34 Come to your senses as you ought and stop sinning; for I say to your shame, there are some who know not God.
                  .
                  ⊛⊛⊛⊛⊛⊛⊛⊛⊛⊛⊛⊛⊛⊛⊛⊛⊛⊛⊛⊛⊛⊛
                  Scripture before Tradition:
                  but that won't prevent others from
                  taking it upon themselves to deprive you
                  of the right to call yourself Christian.

                  ⊛⊛⊛⊛⊛⊛⊛⊛⊛⊛⊛⊛⊛⊛⊛⊛⊛⊛⊛⊛⊛

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                  • Originally posted by tabibito View Post
                    I didn't say that Gen 2:7 wasn't tenable, I said that a particular interpretation thereof was not tenable.
                    Originally posted by tabibito View Post
                    From the same article

                    According to the Bible (Genesis 2:7), this is how humanity began:
                    Nope. That is just one of the possible interpretations - and it is indeed not tenable.
                    Ah, you did not specify in your citation what specifically as to how that statement you cited was not tenable from the article.
                    . . . the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth; . . . -- Romans 1:16 KJV

                    . . . that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures; And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures: . . . -- 1 Corinthians 15:3-4 KJV

                    Whosoever believeth that Jesus is the Christ is born of God: . . . -- 1 John 5:1 KJV

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                    • It is not meant in the sense he needed rest, it is in the sense he stopped or rested from creating things.
                      Like humans are said to be at rest when the finish working.
                      BU

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