The Universe Shouldn't Exist...

[seer]

Interesting...

The Universe Should Not Actually Exist, CERN Scientists Discover

The universe as we know it should not exist, scientists working at CERN, the European Organization for Nuclear Research, have said.

After performing the most precise experiments on antiprotons that have ever been carried out, researchers have discovered a symmetry in nature that they say just shouldn’t be possible.

One of the big questions about the universe is how the first matter formed after the Big Bang. Because particles and antiparticles annihilate one another when they come into contact, if there were exactly equal measures of both, the universe wouldn’t exist—at least not in the form we see it today. As such, there must be an imbalance between particles and antiparticles, even if it is only by the tiniest fraction.

"All of our observations find a complete symmetry between matter and antimatter, which is why the universe should not actually exist," first author Christian Smorra, from Japan’s RIKEN institute, said in a statement.

http://www.newsweek.com/universe-sho...iscover-692500

[Jedidiah]

Are you suggesting, seer, that there is something that science does not understand about the origin of the universe?

[seer]

Are you suggesting, seer, that there is something that science does not understand about the origin of the universe?

Who, me?

[Cow Poke]

Interesting...

...which is why the universe should not actually exist," first author Christian Smorra...

Well, he's a Christian, so what do you expect?

[rogue06]

For the sarcastically impaired the following is said in jest

And just yesterday scientists were ready to pack it in having figured that they knew everything about everything

[One Bad Pig]

For the sarcastically impaired the following is said in jest

And just yesterday scientists were ready to pack it in having figured that they knew everything about everything

As a professor of mine once noted, these are the three stages in the education of an astrophysicist:

1) First year undergrad: We know everything
2) 2-4th year undergrad: This is how we know everything
3) grad student: Er, this is why we don't know anything.

[rogue06]

As a professor of mine once noted, these are the three stages in the education of an astrophysicist:

1) First year undergrad: We know everything
2) 2-4th year undergrad: This is how we know everything
3) grad student: Er, this is why we don't know anything.

Reminds me of what someone I knew who was both a psychologist and psychiatrist^[1] once said about his education. The first semester you learn everything you'll ever need to know. The second semester you learn that everything you previously learned was wrong and now you learned everything you'll ever need to know. The third semester you learn that everything you previously learned was wrong and now you learned everything you'll ever need to know. This continues all the way until you graduate when you pick out the pieces that make sense to you and work for you and use them.






1. and no I was not seeing him professionally

[seer]

As a professor of mine once noted, these are the three stages in the education of an astrophysicist:

1) First year undergrad: We know everything
2) 2-4th year undergrad: This is how we know everything
3) grad student: Er, this is why we don't know anything.

Sounds like me with theology!

[shunyadragon]

I am not impressed with an 'argument from ignorance' when some scientists claim the 'universe shouldn't exist,' because they presently lack the information that explains the formation and existence of the universe.

[Cow Poke]

I am not impressed with an 'argument from ignorance' when some scientists claim the 'universe shouldn't exist,' because they presently lack the information that explains the formation and existence of the universe.

But it's always fun to see scientists puzzled.

[rogue06]

But it's always fun to see scientists puzzled.

In reality they are almost always puzzled. That is why they are constantly researching and studying this thing or that. It isn't because they already have all the answers and are bored.

As Isaac Asimov so aptly put it: "The most exciting phrase to hear in science, the one that heralds the most discoveries, is not "Eureka!" (I found it!) but 'That's funny'."

[shunyadragon]

But it's always fun to see scientists puzzled.

I actually agree, and this part o the inspiration for further research. It is not uncommon for scientists to be puzzled and not know nor understand everything.

What is the problem here?!?!?!

[37818]

Science Fiction scenario:

There are four types of matter not just matter and anti-matter. (+) (-) But another set of matter and anti-matter. (north) (south)

If either a (north) or (south) and say comes in contact with an (-) electron. Then the let us say (south)tron comes in contact with an (-) electron they become a (north)tron and a (+) positron pair.

So the other type of matter coming into contact with matter or anti-matter cause a switch of the matter type. Making it possible for only ordinary matter as we know it to remain.

High energy photons being slowed down by ordinary matter becomes an electron and positron pair. If the some high energy photon was slowed down by the other type of (this fictional) matter it would become a (north)tron and (south)tron pair. Should this happen in the presence of ordinary matter it could cause a cascade of natter and its anti-matter annihilation.

Photons are electro-magnetic entities. Only 90 degrees out of phase is the difference between these two types of matter and anti-matter.

Again science fiction for now.

[shunyadragon]

Science Fiction scenario:

There are four types of matter not just matter and anti-matter. (+) (-) But another set of matter and anti-matter. (north) (south)

If either a (north) or (south) and say comes in contact with an (-) electron. Then the let us say (south)tron comes in contact with an (-) electron they become a (north)tron and a (+) positron pair.

So the other type of matter coming into contact with matter or anti-matter cause a switch of the matter type. Making it possible for only ordinary matter as we know it to remain.

High energy photons being slowed down by ordinary matter becomes an electron and positron pair. If the some high energy photon was slowed down by the other type of (this fictional) matter it would become a (north)tron and (south)tron pair. Should this happen in the presence of ordinary matter it could cause a cascade of natter and its anti-matter annihilation.

Photons are electro-magnetic entities. Only 90 degrees out of phase is the difference between these two types of matter and anti-matter.

Again science fiction for now.

Disconnected sound bites from the clueless with a religious agenda.

[Yttrium]

Disconnected sound bites from the clueless with a religious agenda.

How does that factor into a religious agenda?

Offhand, it seems to me that you're off base with that comment.