Should Al Franken Resign?

[carpedm9587]

Milo is racist?

Got any quotes (with context) to support that?

You do know that he's in a relationship with a black man, right? I think the 'Milo is racist' accusation is an attempt by some on the left to disqualify anything he might say without actually addressing it. Which is what you say you reject.

A few sources:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...=.5238d8aa4dad

https://www.adl.org/education/resour...things-to-know

https://inews.co.uk/news/world/milo-...ts-global-war/

There are more...but you get the drift. IMO, the man is vile. I have little patience for people who make their money and fame saying intentionally provocative and outrageous things. It is why I have no patience for Ann Coulter, Rush Limbaugh, Glenn Beck, Sean Hannity, Steve Bannon, or Bill O'Reilly. They are the right wing voices of divisiveness and rabble rousing. The left have a few of their own (frankly, that used to be my opinion of Franken - based on his book about "lying liars"), but they have nowhere near the platform of these, AFAICT.

[Teallaura]

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[carpedm9587]

I'm pretty sure you've gone off on this PC tangent a few times recently. That's pretty much what struck my initial interest. Why is it such a major issue for me? I suppose it comes down to my love of truth. But I suppose I could ask you the same, why is it such a major issue for you that it's merited so much exchange?

You were asking questions I thought merited answers. I confess to being on the wordy side (like I actually needed to tell anyone that).

I gave you my reason, "In my opinion, your recounted experiences strain credibility. They don't mirror reality as I'm familiar with it, and I don't think I'm alone in that (though I could be wrong). For the record, I too am well traveled. Never in all my years have I heard people say the things you're claiming they say with some regularity."

So you doubt I'm telling you the truth about responses when calling on people not to swear using religious terms? Or the entire discussion about gender-specific language on my Facebook page? Or the common public defense of Trump as being "not PC?" Or morning breakfast discussions in hotels, on my journeys, that took a political turn and the issue of political correctness came up and the widely varying lists I heard of what the people I was talking to consider PC and not PC?

What on earth would be my motivation for making this stuff up?

You realize you could have done the same at any point, right?

Absolutely. And when a discussion is clearly going nowhere and I find myself just repeating the same thing over and over, I usually disconnect (though it sometimes takes me a while ). I tend to make the assumption that someone is asking questions out of an honest intent to know - but if my explanations aren't getting us anywhere, I'll eventually jump off.

I guess, at this point, since you don't seem to think I'm being honest in my responses, there isn't much point in continuing. So I'll jump off here and leave the final observation to you - if you so choose.

[carpedm9587]

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Love it!

[Adrift]

So you doubt I'm telling you the truth about responses when calling on people not to swear using religious terms?

Yes, and I think I've stated as much a couple times now.

Or the entire discussion about gender-specific language on my Facebook page? Or the common public defense of Trump as being "not PC?" Or morning breakfast discussions in hotels, on my journeys, that took a political turn and the issue of political correctness came up and the widely varying lists I heard of what the people I was talking to consider PC and not PC?

Pretty much the first one, unless I've stated otherwise in this conversation.

What on earth would be my motivation for making this stuff up?

I think probably you were intending to make a point, and you were scraping for an example you thought was roughly comparable to the left being called PC that you thought Christians could sympathize with. I don't think you were expecting to be called on it.

Absolutely. And when a discussion is clearly going nowhere and I find myself just repeating the same thing over and over, I usually disconnect (though it sometimes takes me a while ). I tend to make the assumption that someone is asking questions out of an honest intent to know - but if my explanations aren't getting us anywhere, I'll eventually jump off.

I guess, at this point, since you don't seem to think I'm being honest in my responses, there isn't much point in continuing. So I'll jump off here and leave the final observation to you - if you so choose.

Ok. Here's hoping our next conversation goes a bit better.

[Adrift]

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Aren't there some non-mods as well. What is it, white for tech guys? Then there's another color for emeritus members?

[Teallaura]

Aren't there some non-mods as well. What is it, white for tech guys? Then there's another color for emeritus members?

Gray for tech, used to be purple for former Members of the Month.

[One Bad Pig]

Gray for tech, used to be purple for former Members of the Month.

Until the reboot, when the techies wore purple.

[MaxVel]

A few sources:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...=.5238d8aa4dad

https://www.adl.org/education/resour...things-to-know

https://inews.co.uk/news/world/milo-...ts-global-war/

There are more...but you get the drift. IMO, the man is vile. I have little patience for people who make their money and fame saying intentionally provocative and outrageous things. It is why I have no patience for Ann Coulter, Rush Limbaugh, Glenn Beck, Sean Hannity, Steve Bannon, or Bill O'Reilly. They are the right wing voices of divisiveness and rabble rousing. The left have a few of their own (frankly, that used to be my opinion of Franken - based on his book about "lying liars"), but they have nowhere near the platform of these, AFAICT.

So basically he was rude to Leslie Jones on Twitter (not racist) and it's 'alleged' he had passwords that contained words that may be associated with Nazism. Oh, and people who are claimed to be racist like Milo.

Not exactly evidence of being racist. I get that he's very provocative, and you don't like his style, or his politics. What I don't get is that you can see how 'racist' is used by some on the left to smear people and shut their voices down, but can't see that that is what is happening here too.

[rogue06]

Until the reboot, when the techies wore purple.

And weren't some of the former staff a baby blue?

[rogue06]

A few sources:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...=.5238d8aa4dad

https://www.adl.org/education/resour...things-to-know

https://inews.co.uk/news/world/milo-...ts-global-war/

There are more...but you get the drift. IMO, the man is vile. I have little patience for people who make their money and fame saying intentionally provocative and outrageous things. It is why I have no patience for Ann Coulter, Rush Limbaugh, Glenn Beck, Sean Hannity, Steve Bannon, or Bill O'Reilly. They are the right wing voices of divisiveness and rabble rousing. The left have a few of their own (frankly, that used to be my opinion of Franken - based on his book about "lying liars"), but they have nowhere near the platform of these, AFAICT.

Noooo. Not at all


They just control the networks, nearly all the newspapers, and Hollywood. Other than that, just a tiny platform.

[Cow Poke]

And weren't some of the former staff a baby blue?

And somebody was gray or silver.

ETA:

Gray for tech, used to be purple for former Members of the Month.

Yeah, like that. Or something.

[Cerebrum123]

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The ones I added to your post are the "official" names of the various ranks.

[Cerebrum123]

And weren't some of the former staff a baby blue?

Emeritus Professor.

[Cow Poke]

The ones I added to your post are the "official" names of the various ranks.

And some of them, like Sparko and Rogue, were kind of a poopiehead brown, no?