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Should Al Franken Resign?
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Originally posted by carpedm9587 View PostOK - so I repeat the question. The article you linked to makes note of the slush fund, but provides no names and no indication of distribution (except to note one D and one R). I folowed the embedded links and still did not arrive at that information, so it's not clear to me how this article supports your claim. And where do you get the information that they are mostly "D?" Can you give me a source I can look at?
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/report-...exual-conduct/
You can't convince me that nobody else in Congress knew about this.Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
Than a fool in the eyes of God
From "Fools Gold" by Petra
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Originally posted by Mountain Man View PostConyers is one of the D's who took advantage of the free money to pay off victims
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/report-...exual-conduct/
You can't convince me that nobody else in Congress knew about this.The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by Cow Poke View PostKinda like the "open secret" about Ted Kennedy in his day.
http://nymag.com/nymetro/news/politi...features/2165/Atheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbnueb2OI4o&t=3s
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Originally posted by seer View PostLike him and my senator at the time, Chris Dodd, in the famous “waitress sandwich.”
http://nymag.com/nymetro/news/politi...features/2165/The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by Cow Poke View PostThey were just boys being boys.
I'm always still in trouble again
"You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
"Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
"Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman
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Originally posted by rogue06 View PostAnd its just what one should expect if you're a woman anywhere near such "boys"
The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by Cow Poke View PostIt was probably the woman's fault!Atheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbnueb2OI4o&t=3s
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Originally posted by Mountain Man View PostConyers is one of the D's who took advantage of the free money to pay off victims
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/report-...exual-conduct/
You can't convince me that nobody else in Congress knew about this.The ultimate weakness of violence is that it is a descending spiral begetting the very thing it seeks to destroy...returning violence for violence multiplies violence, adding deeper darkness to a night already devoid of stars. Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that. Martin Luther King
I would unite with anybody to do right and with nobody to do wrong. Frederick Douglas
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I'm just going to make one statement here. I do not defend the actions of any of these people - and where there are clearly issues - accountability is essential. For both sides - for all situations. I delight in the fact that we are finally dragging this (usually male) behavior into the light and calling it out for what it is. The excuse, "that's the way I was raised" explains the behavior and I accept the explanation - but nothing excuses the behavior.
And this is a non-partisan issue, as far as I am concerned. I am as dismayed by the behavior of our Democrats as I am of our Republicans - or ANY person who is acting this way and attempting to defend it. That includes presidents who dismiss their language as "locker room talk" or presidents who leverage their power to have an affair with an intern. It includes senators who pose for inappropriate pictures. Males in our country and culture need to collectively grow up, and stop seeing (and treating) women as objects for their enjoyment.
There is nothing wrong with admiring beauty - male OR female. There IS something wrong with objectifying people as so many do, in and out of office.
There is something just not right about making light of it - or turning it into yet another partisan issue.The ultimate weakness of violence is that it is a descending spiral begetting the very thing it seeks to destroy...returning violence for violence multiplies violence, adding deeper darkness to a night already devoid of stars. Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that. Martin Luther King
I would unite with anybody to do right and with nobody to do wrong. Frederick Douglas
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Cokie Roberts, a long time veteran of ABC's This Week and now also NPR, said that the women in the Washington Press Corp have known for years that they should never get onboard an elevator with John Conyers. Now we have to wonder just what sort of stuff did Conyers do to women unfortunate to be trapped on an elevator that he earned such a reputation.
I'm always still in trouble again
"You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
"Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
"Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman
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Originally posted by rogue06 View PostCokie Roberts, a long time veteran of ABC's This Week and now also NPR, said that the women in the Washington Press Corp have known for years that they should never get onboard an elevator with John Conyers. Now we have to wonder just what sort of stuff did Conyers do to women unfortunate to be trapped on an elevator that he earned such a reputation.
Which makes this hypocrisy if true..."He is no fool who gives what he cannot keep to gain that which he cannot lose." - Jim Elliot
"Forgiveness is the way of love." Gary Chapman
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Army veteran says Franken groped her during USO tour in 2003
http://www.cnn.com/2017/11/30/politi...ion/index.htmlAtheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbnueb2OI4o&t=3s
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Originally posted by seer View PostArmy veteran says Franken groped her during USO tour in 2003
http://www.cnn.com/2017/11/30/politi...ion/index.htmlSome may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
Than a fool in the eyes of God
From "Fools Gold" by Petra
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Here's the picture from the CNN article:
171130074418-al-franken-stephanie-kemplin-2003-exlarge-169.jpg
That doesn't show anything remotely inappropriate, and she appears to be willingly leaning in towards him with a relaxed smile on her face, which doesn't really jive with her claims:
"I remember clenching up and how you just feel yourself flushed. And I remember thinking -- is he going to move his hand? Was it an accident? Was he going to move his hand? He never moved his hand."
So either she's exaggerating or outright lying, or she's referring to a different incident than the one appearing in this picture.Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
Than a fool in the eyes of God
From "Fools Gold" by Petra
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