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    Ancient Greek 'Masterpiece' Revealed on Thumb-Size Gem

    An article from National Geographic this month details the find of a 3500 piece of artwork of stunning quality and detail on a piece of agate the size of your thumb.



    The problem that the stone has thrown to archaeologists is from the tomb of a warrior who died 3500 years ago, and the detail is "incomprehensibly small" with some details less than a millimeter long. This suggests that the carver had to have used magnifying glasses, but we don't have any record in this time period of them having knowledge of magnifying glasses.

    Source: NatGeo


    "They're incomprehensibly small," said University of Cincinnati professor Jack Davis in a press release.

    In an interview, Davis further explained that works of art made with such detail wouldn't be seen for another 1,000 years.

    "[Other works of art] bear as much resemblance as a Mickey Mouse cartoon to Michelangelo," he said.

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    Could have used a jar full of water which can significantly magnify things. Or perhaps the artist used a piece of naturally formed convex crystal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rogue06 View Post
    Could have used a jar full of water which can significantly magnify things. Or perhaps the artist used a piece of naturally formed convex crystal.
    The jar of water would be a problem as I don't think they had many glass jars/plastic bottles1 3500 years ago.

    The crystal is possible. I've seen some very very clear quartz crystals.

    The thing is the level of detail means that once again we need to revise the "ancient humans were dumb, hur hur" narrative favored by a number of folk.
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    obviously the answer is obvious.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Sparko View Post
    obviously the answer is obvious.


    350x.jpg
    Either that or an oopart left behind by a time traveler.


    Anyway, it's an impressive piece of artwork even if it wasn't on such a tiny piece of agate.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rogue06 View Post
    Could have used a jar full of water which can significantly magnify things. Or perhaps the artist used a piece of naturally formed convex crystal.
    Transparent glass that well made?

    Forget magnification - who the heck did they make tools precise enough and hard enough?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Raphael View Post
    The jar of water would be a problem as I don't think they had many glass jars/plastic bottles1 3500 years ago.

    The crystal is possible. I've seen some very very clear quartz crystals.

    The thing is the level of detail means that once again we need to revise the "ancient humans were dumb, hur hur" narrative favored by a number of folk.
    Forgot to add my superscript comment:

    1.) here in NZ a few years ago there was a problem with a brand of bottled water, where the shape of the bottle meant that when full it made a very good lense and would end up melting holes in car seats when left in the sun.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Teallaura View Post
    Transparent glass that well made?

    Forget magnification - who the heck did they make tools precise enough and hard enough?
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    Maybe they should zoom in on it and see if they can find a Police Box.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Raphael View Post
    The jar of water would be a problem as I don't think they had many glass jars/plastic bottles1 3500 years ago.

    The crystal is possible. I've seen some very very clear quartz crystals.

    The thing is the level of detail means that once again we need to revise the "ancient humans were dumb, hur hur" narrative favored by a number of folk.
    Nice discovery concerning ancient human skills, but not unique.

    Maybe some layman 'folks' believe this unfortunate fallacy. This is not the view of scientists of the intellect of Neolithic and Bronze age humans. Numerous rather advanced items have been found world wide including an aerodynamically designed weapon made from elephant tusk that is capable of killing a large animal from a considerable distance. Analysis shows that the weapon requires considerable learned skill to use properly.

    Ancient Chinese cultures before ~2000 BCE carved detailed jade works using very fine tools drills.laths and saws made for harder silicate stones.
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