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  • #16
    Originally posted by Leonhard View Post
    being Catholic, I wouldn't accept anything other than "In the name of the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit." (or equi. translations), its not that they've forbidden the traditional forms. Nor is there any directive to avoid such language in place.
    It says for the introduction to worship, not the formula for baptism. I wouldn't object to "in the name of the triune God" for baptism, but it would cause ecumenical problems. So I'd stick with the usual formula. We don't have any evidence they're changing baptism.

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    • #17
      Originally posted by hedrick View Post
      It says for the introduction to worship, not the formula for baptism. I wouldn't object to "in the name of the triune God" for baptism, but it would cause ecumenical problems. So I'd stick with the usual formula. We don't have any evidence they're changing baptism.
      You are correct.

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      • #18
        Originally posted by Leonhard View Post
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        This is sorta fake news. What they did was add a third version of the baptismal prayer. While personally, and being Catholic, I wouldn't accept anything other than "In the name of the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit." (or equi. translations), its not that they've forbidden the traditional forms. Nor is there any directive to avoid such language in place.

        http://www.mynewsdesk.com/uk/svenska...p-book-2298124

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        • #19
          Originally posted by kiwimac View Post
          God is a Spirit, a spirit does not have gender. The Bible refers to God as Father, being like an expectant mother, an eagle with out-stretched wings. Jesus had gender as he was human but God, the parent of us all is not human and thus has no gender.
          I thought you liberals believe that sex and gender are different and that gender is what you want to be. It's in your mind. So if God refers to himself as "he" and "father" then he has a gender, correct?

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          • #20
            Originally posted by Leonhard View Post
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            This is sorta fake news. What they did was add a third version of the baptismal prayer. While personally, and being Catholic, I wouldn't accept anything other than "In the name of the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit." (or equi. translations), its not that they've forbidden the traditional forms. Nor is there any directive to avoid such language in place.

            http://www.mynewsdesk.com/uk/svenska...p-book-2298124

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            • #21
              Originally posted by Leonhard View Post
              *** sneaks into TheologyWeb ***

              This is sorta fake news. What they did was add a third version of the baptismal prayer. While personally, and being Catholic, I wouldn't accept anything other than "In the name of the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit." (or equi. translations), its not that they've forbidden the traditional forms. Nor is there any directive to avoid such language in place.

              http://www.mynewsdesk.com/uk/svenska...p-book-2298124

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              • #22
                Originally posted by Teallaura View Post
                Get back here!
                We miss you....
                Nah.

                I miss you guys. But I don't miss this forum. I miss what it used to mean to me, but not what it's become post Trump.

                The dialogue has become a bit one-sided, and I'm tired of having to re-apply my custom javascript filters that remove posts from trolls and cranks. Once Shunya, seer, Mountain Man and Darth Ex have been muted, there's hardly anyone talking here.

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by One Bad Pig View Post
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                  Nice try.

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by Leonhard View Post
                    Nah.

                    I miss you guys. But I don't miss this forum. I miss what it used to mean to me, but not what it's become post Trump.

                    The dialogue has become a bit one-sided, and I'm tired of having to re-apply my custom javascript filters that remove posts from trolls and cranks. Once Shunya, seer, Mountain Man and Darth Ex have been muted, there's hardly anyone talking here.
                    Cause you muted me long ago, right?
                    The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
                      Cause you muted me long ago, right?
                      I'd never mute you. As much of a hot head as I was during the discussions about police shootings, I respect you. :D

                      And way to use pity to get me to reply. I won't participate in other threads, or any discussion of sorts though. I might start one thread in the prayer sub-forum about a particular thing though.

                      Another explanation for my absence is more simple. God has graced me with a full-time job. When I come home I'm tired. :)
                      Last edited by Leonhard; 11-30-2017, 04:43 PM.

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by Leonhard View Post
                        Nah.

                        I miss you guys. But I don't miss this forum. I miss what it used to mean to me, but not what it's become post Trump.

                        The dialogue has become a bit one-sided, and I'm tired of having to re-apply my custom javascript filters that remove posts from trolls and cranks. Once Shunya, seer, Mountain Man and Darth Ex have been muted, there's hardly anyone talking here.
                        I was wondering where you went. Too bad, I generally thought your posts were good.

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
                          Church of Sweden to stop clergy calling God 'he' or 'the Lord' in bid to crack down on gendered language

                          he Church of Sweden is urging its clergy to use gender-neutral language when referring to the supreme deity, refraining from using terms like "Lord" and "He" in favor of the less specific "God."

                          The move is one of several taken by the national Evangelical Lutheran church in updating a 31-year-old handbook setting out how services should be conducted in terms of language, liturgy, hymns and other aspects.
                          Crafting a god more appropriate for the times(?).
                          For Neo-Remonstration (Arminian/Remonstrant ruminations): <https://theremonstrant.blogspot.com>

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by The Remonstrant View Post
                            Crafting a god more appropriate for the times(?).
                            I hear he comes with Blu-ray and a built in lounge chair....

                            Maybe we should wait to build God until after we can build something simpler - like the universe.
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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by Teallaura View Post
                              I hear he comes with Blu-ray and a built in lounge chair....

                              Maybe we should wait to build God until after we can build something simpler - like the universe.
                              True.

                              However, one of man's favorite hobbies is to build a god in the image that man wants him to have.

                              There is nothing new under the sun.
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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
                                Church of Sweden to stop clergy calling God 'he' or 'the Lord' in bid to crack down on gendered language

                                he Church of Sweden is urging its clergy to use gender-neutral language when referring to the supreme deity, refraining from using terms like "Lord" and "He" in favor of the less specific "God."

                                The move is one of several taken by the national Evangelical Lutheran church in updating a 31-year-old handbook setting out how services should be conducted in terms of language, liturgy, hymns and other aspects.
                                Originally posted by The Remonstrant View Post
                                Crafting a god more appropriate for the times(?).
                                Originally posted by Thoughtful Monk View Post
                                True.

                                However, one of man's favorite hobbies is to build a god in the image that man wants him to have.

                                There is nothing new under the sun.
                                One common example is conceiving of a love-only god, which very easily leads to the acceptance of universalism: the view that all persons will (or must) eventually be reconciled to God. (Typically this is conceived as being accomplished via some kind of post-mortem repentance.)
                                For Neo-Remonstration (Arminian/Remonstrant ruminations): <https://theremonstrant.blogspot.com>

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