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    Christmas and Advent

    I got a little taste of Advent when our Church was sharing our building with the Lutheran congregation. I saw their decorations, and shared in some of the discussions concerning Advent.

    Having grown up Independent Baptist, and spending most of my time as a Southern Baptist, we simply never "did" Advent.

    I'm thinking, for the 4 Sundays in December leading up to Christmas, I'd like to focus on Advent-ish stuff.

    This is NOT a debate thread, so please don't argue whether Advent is or is not a good thing, or whatever.

    I'm simply asking those of you who have experience with Advent to share your thoughts and ideas. What does Advent mean to you? How do you observe it, etc?

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    We used to celebrate it in the Baptist church we were attending.

    There are several different ways to do it. We had a round candle holder that held 4 candles, surrounded by greenery, and a separate candle in the centre. The first Sunday a family would come up and light one of the candles and give a reading on the meaning of that candle. The next Sunday another family would light the first candle and the second one, and so on for the 4 Sundays.

    On Christmas Day or Christmas Eve, depending on when a service was held, the 4 candles were lit, as well as the centre candle, the Christ Child candle, to indicate that Christ had been born.

    The candles are usually 3 purple and 1 pink one, and then the Christ Child candle is white. The candles represent different things, depending on the liturgy used, I guess.

    There are reasons for the different colours that I can't remember.

    There's lots of info online. Most of it very Catholic. Here's what the advent wreath looks like.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Advent_wreath

    We never minded the procedure, but it didn't mean that much to us.


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    I grew up in a church that celebrated Advent. I missed not celebrating it when I was in churches that didn't do anything for church seasons. There is something to preparing for an event. Getting your mind more on the spiritual aspects of the season.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mossrose View Post
    We used to celebrate it in the Baptist church we were attending.

    There are several different ways to do it. We had a round candle holder that held 4 candles, surrounded by greenery, and a separate candle in the centre. The first Sunday a family would come up and light one of the candles and give a reading on the meaning of that candle. The next Sunday another family would light the first candle and the second one, and so on for the 4 Sundays.

    On Christmas Day or Christmas Eve, depending on when a service was held, the 4 candles were lit, as well as the centre candle, the Christ Child candle, to indicate that Christ had been born.

    The candles are usually 3 purple and 1 pink one, and then the Christ Child candle is white. The candles represent different things, depending on the liturgy used, I guess.

    There are reasons for the different colours that I can't remember.

    There's lots of info online. Most of it very Catholic. Here's what the advent wreath looks like.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Advent_wreath

    We never minded the procedure, but it didn't mean that much to us.
    I'm imagining it not being so much the "center" (centre?) of the service, but incorporated as "this is why they do this", and utilizing the main points.

    Or something.

    It's still cooking around in my head.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thoughtful Monk View Post
    I grew up in a church that celebrated Advent. I missed not celebrating it when I was in churches that didn't do anything for church seasons. There is something to preparing for an event. Getting your mind more on the spiritual aspects of the season.
    Yeah, something like that. Not just, "oh, by the way, next Sunday is Christmas Sunday!"

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    Here are some ideas from a Reformed pastor that are pretty close to what we did.

    https://www.reformedworship.org/arti...-advent-wreath


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    Quote Originally Posted by mossrose View Post
    Here are some ideas from a Reformed pastor that are pretty close to what we did.

    https://www.reformedworship.org/arti...-advent-wreath
    I always wonder what those pastors did that was so bad they had to reform.





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    Quote Originally Posted by Cow Poke View Post
    I always wonder what those pastors did that was so bad they had to reform.







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    The East seems to have developed its Advent traditions completely separately from the West (apparently Rome first celebrated the Nativity on December 25th, while the East first celebrated the Nativity on January 6th along with the baptism of Jesus by John; in the fourth century, the East started celebrating the Nativity on Dec. 25th and the West started celebrating Epiphany on Jan. 6). I never grew up doing stuff for Advent, so I don't know much about how the West does it. In the East, aside from fasting from meat and dairy for 40 days leading up to the feast, we commemorate the Old Testament forefathers on the 2nd Sunday before Christmas (i.e., the messianic promise in Gen. 3:15, the Abrahamic promise, etc.), and the prophets on the Sunday before Christmas (especially Daniel for his prophecy of when Messiah would come); on the Sunday after Christmas we commemorate David, Joseph, and James.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cow Poke View Post
    Yeah, something like that. Not just, "oh, by the way, next Sunday is Christmas Sunday!"
    Off topic but I always appreciate a church that does a strong Lenten preparation. Easter is the most important Christian holyday and should be "oh, by the way, next Sunday is Easter."
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