Flynn pleads guilty to lying to the FBI

[JimL]

You have no clue what that word means or who the real autocrat was.

Bill, I know an autocrat, a dictator wanna be, when I see one. You obviously don't. Either that, or you do, and secretly like it.

Again, you have no clue what that word means.

Yeah, actually I do, we have one in the White House which will be born out in the end.


[QUOTE] Democracy is all about the free market and less regulation. But let's not forget AGAIN which side really hates the democratic process...

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No, it isn't Bill, it's about democratic institutions and the will of the people.

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And your silly photo's are supposed to tell us what?

Yeah... thank goodness for you butchers...

http://www.numberofabortions.com/

Different subject Bill, isn't going to help your argument. You conservative anti-abortionist are mostly frauds anyway, if you actually cared about the unborn, you'd care about them after they are actually born as well, but you don't. Thats where Liberals come in.

[Bill the Cat]

Bill, I know an autocrat, a dictator wanna be, when I see one. You obviously don't. Either that, or you do, and secretly like it.

Actually, yes I do know. That's why I knew what the article I cited meant. Obama was the autocrat, Jim.

Yeah, actually I do, we have one in the White House which will be born out in the end.

Sorry, but no. Nothing Trump has allegedly done is treason. Now Bradley Manning, pardoned by Obama... now THAT is what treason means.

[JimL]

Actually, yes I do know. That's why I knew what the article I cited meant. Obama was the autocrat, Jim.





Sorry, but no. Nothing Trump has allegedly done is treason. Now Bradley Manning, pardoned by Obama... now THAT is what treason means.

Here is a quote from a wanna be dictator Bill: " You know the saddest thing, because I'm the president of the U.S., I'm not supposed to be involved with the Justice Dept., I'm not supposed to be involved with the FBI, I'm not supposed to be doing the kinds of things that I would love to be doing. And I'm very frustrated by that." D.J.Trump.

[Bill the Cat]

Here is a quote from a wanna be dictator Bill: " You know the saddest thing, because I'm the president of the U.S., I'm not supposed to be involved with the Justice Dept., I'm not supposed to be involved with the FBI, I'm not supposed to be doing the kinds of things that I would love to be doing. And I'm very frustrated by that." D.J.Trump.

Source: https://www.pri.org/stories/2017-05-11/trump-autocrat-demagogue-or-anything-we-looked-definitions[/cite

So Trump is not an autocrat.

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[Mountain Man]

Here is a quote from a wanna be dictator Bill: " You know the saddest thing, because I'm the president of the U.S., I'm not supposed to be involved with the Justice Dept., I'm not supposed to be involved with the FBI, I'm not supposed to be doing the kinds of things that I would love to be doing. And I'm very frustrated by that." D.J.Trump.

Openly acknowledging the limitations of the presidential office makes Trump an autocrat?

[Cow Poke]

Here is a quote from a wanna be dictator Bill: " You know the saddest thing, because I'm the president of the U.S., I'm not supposed to be involved with the Justice Dept., I'm not supposed to be involved with the FBI, I'm not supposed to be doing the kinds of things that I would love to be doing. And I'm very frustrated by that." D.J.Trump.

How come whenever you provide a "quote", you can't ever actually source it with an actual cite? I mean, it's not that we don't trust you - it's just that you're wrong so often.

And, what the sam thunder is a "wanna be dictator Bill"?

[Charles]

The first story I quoted is about an MSNBC legal analyst, you dope. That's the "mainstream media" I was referring to.

So one person, one legal analyst, was the "mainstream media" you were refering to?

[Tassman]

Actually, the one charge includes 4 lies.

"He [Flynn] scored what several experts called a highly favorable plea agreement that spares him of many of the criminal charges he could have faced and, for now, leaves his son untouched. In exchange, Flynn agreed to share all he knows about the president and his aides with Mueller as part of his investigation into Russian meddling in the 2016 election".

The deal came as a searing conclusion to what Flynn called Friday “many months of false accusations of ‘treason’ and other outrageous acts.” It hints at the enormous pressure he was under to cooperate.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/polit...=.a787a2b78a44

And officially establishes him as a liar in the eyes of the court, so his testimony will be suspect, at best.

It will be interesting how Flynn's lies stack up against Trump's lies.

[Starlight]

You mean policies like universal health care and the well targeted welfare safety-nets which have resulted in the more secular, liberal nations topping the UN Human Development Index.

Which is comprised of measures of how socialistic a country is...

The HDI measures life expectancy, GDP per capita, and average education level.

Perhaps you can explain how those are a measure of socialism?

The issue is that US liberals are dedicated to pursuing policies and ideas that have failed almost everywhere else. That's not to say that conservatism in the US doesn't have its flaws, it obviously does.

As an observer from outside the US, this seems laughably backward. US liberals are pushing for policies that elsewhere in the world have solved the problems that the US is grappling with, and that the rest of the developed world is laughing at the US for its ongoing failure to adopt those tried and true solutions to the problems it obviously faces. Whereas US conversatives seem to be absolutely and completely insane and nutty and pushing for policies that have never been seen in the any of the rest of the developed world and seem like bizarre African dictator policies.

But perhaps you have a specific policy or two in mind?

after all, we don't pay our own debts, even when we get caught in sex scandals - we just shovel more tax dollars out the window!

I am confused as to what you are talking about. Are you combining the recent Republican tax vote to intentionally run up trillions of dollars worth of debt, with all the various Republican sex scandals, and then projecting it onto Democrats?

[Cow Poke]

It will be interesting how Flynn's lies stack up against Trump's lies.

It will be more interesting how, in any kind of prosecution, the prosecutors will explain away the fact that they have established that their own witness is a liar.

[Bill the Cat]

The HDI measures life expectancy, GDP per capita, and average education level.

Perhaps you can explain how those are a measure of socialism?

From the HDI report itself:

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Socialist measures are used to determine "success"

[One Bad Pig]

So your best answer to the arguments given is "Like I said"?

No actual content - nothing more than calling into question a misrepresentation of MM's post. I see you haven't missed a beat, Charles.

[JimL]

It will be more interesting how, in any kind of prosecution, the prosecutors will explain away the fact that they have established that their own witness is a liar.

Evidence and corroboration, CP. Mueller already knew that Flynn lied which is why he pleaded guilty. How did Mueller know? Evidence!

[Mountain Man]

So one person, one legal analyst, was the "mainstream media" you were refering to?

He's MSNBC's legal analyst and therefore speaks for the network. Unless you think major TV networks just let their people go on the air and say whatever they want off the cuff?

[Mountain Man]

No actual content - nothing more than calling into question a misrepresentation of MM's post. I see you haven't missed a beat, Charles.

He's the background noise of TheologyWeb.