Papyrus found Jesus married

[Manwë Súlimo]

Apparently the Carbon-14 dating is all over the place. Of the three tests, two produced results that would place the papyrus' composition several hundred years BEFORE Jesus was even born and the last more than half a millennia AFTER:

As for the scientific tests, those on the ink produced results consistent with the item being old, not modern. The two radio-carbon tests, however, are both a bit puzzling and interesting. The proposed dates of the two tests are out from each other by several hundred years. The one report (by Hodgins) notes the curious date-result (405-350 BCE and/or 307-209 BCE), about a thousand years earlier than the date from the other carbon-dating test (659-969 CE), and Hodgins suggests some kind of contamination of the sample. But I’d assume that a contamination would come from something later than the ancient setting, and so skew the date later, not earlier. I’ll need some help with this!

http://larryhurtado.wordpress.com/20...tial-thoughts/

[seer]

Just a side note here - so what if Jesus was married? Marriage can be holy and good.

[Leonhard]

Just a side note here - so what if Jesus was married? Marriage can be holy and good.

He's married to the church.

[whag]

He's married to the church.

That's not the same. A bride isn't the same as a wife. Or is the church Jesus' wife?

[seer]

He's married to the church.

So if He has a human wife while on earth that would be adultery?

[whag]

Just a side note here - so what if Jesus was married? Marriage can be holy and good.

To marry someone knowing you're going to be hanged later would be cruel.

[Leonhard]

So if He has a human wife while on earth that would be adultery?

No, but it would be less perfect.

[Leonhard]

To marry someone knowing you're going to be hanged later would be cruel.

Reminds me that St Peter was martyred along with his wife.

[One Bad Pig]

Reminds me that St Peter was martyred along with his wife.

Oh? I don't recall seeing any information beyond that he was married.

[Leonhard]

Oh? I don't recall seeing any information beyond that he was married.

Its not in the Bible, but Clement of Alexandrea wrote a book titled 'Stromata' (means 'miscellaneous') which was basically a collection of miscellaneous facts at the time.

"They say, accordingly, that the blessed Peter, on seeing his wife led to death, rejoiced on account of her call and conveyance home, and called very encouragingly and comfortingly, addressing her by name, Remember the Lord. Such was the marriage of the blessed and their perfect disposition towards those dearest to them." Stromata Book VII Ch III

[NormATive]

It is very misleading to affirmatively state for sure in a subject line that, yes, Jesus was for sure married... based on a line in a fourth century document.

Yeah, that's almost as ridiculous as someone basing an entire religion on second and third century documents ... Wait?

NORM

[whag]

Yeah, that's almost as ridiculous as someone basing an entire religion on second and third century documents ... Wait?

NORM

Why were early christians forging and interpolating to begin with? The Coptics weren't the first.

[One Bad Pig]

Its not in the Bible, but Clement of Alexandrea wrote a book titled 'Stromata' (means 'miscellaneous') which was basically a collection of miscellaneous facts at the time.

"They say, accordingly, that the blessed Peter, on seeing his wife led to death, rejoiced on account of her call and conveyance home, and called very encouragingly and comfortingly, addressing her by name, Remember the Lord. Such was the marriage of the blessed and their perfect disposition towards those dearest to them." Stromata Book VII Ch III

Thanks. That's found in Book VII Ch. XI, though - and that in no way implies that they were martyred together (though it's possible).

[One Bad Pig]

Yeah, that's almost as ridiculous as someone basing an entire religion on second and third century documents ... Wait?

NORM

What religion would that be? You're certainly not describing Christianity.

[Paprika]

Yeah, that's almost as ridiculous as someone basing an entire religion on second and third century documents ... Wait?

Talmudic Judaism?