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  • #31
    Originally posted by Starlight View Post
    Clearly you don't follow US politics very closely. The democrats regularly propose anti-corruption measures (at least once a year) and they die down party lines (100% of democrats vote for them, 100% of republicans against). It's one of the clearest and most consistent differences between the two parties.
    Do they bring up these ‘anti corruption measures’ while using taxpayer money to pay off their sexual harassment victims and using their office to accept bribes from rich people for favors?
    "The man from the yacht thought he was the first to find England; I thought I was the first to find Europe. I did try to found a heresy of my own; and when I had put the last touches to it, I discovered that it was orthodoxy."
    GK Chesterton; Orthodoxy

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    • #32
      Originally posted by lilpixieofterror View Post
      Do they bring up these ‘anti corruption measures’ while using taxpayer money to pay off their sexual harassment victims and using their office to accept bribes from rich people for favors?
      And while cashing bogus checks at the Congressional Post Office?

      The Congressional Post Office scandal refers to the discovery of corruption among various Congressional Post Office employees and members of the United States House of Representatives, investigated 1991–95, climaxing in House Ways and Means Committee chairman Dan Rostenkowski (D-IL) pleading guilty in 1996 to reduced charges of mail fraud.

      Initially an investigation by the United States Capitol Police into a single embezzlement charge against a single employee, evidence rapidly led to the inclusion of several other employees, before top Democrats in the House of Representatives moved to shut down the whole line of inquiry, despite protests from Frank Kerrigan, chief of the Capitol Police.

      A new investigation was started by the United States Postal Service, which eventually submitted a report to Congress. This was held by Speaker Thomas Foley (D-WA) until media reports of embezzlement and money laundering leaked out in 1992. Following public outcry, Democratic leaders of the House were forced to refer the matter to the Committee on House Administration, which started its own investigation.

      That committee broke into two parts along party lines, the Democrats issuing a report saying the matter was closed, but the Republicans issuing a dissenting report, including a number of unanswered questions and problems with the investigation. The Republican charges were largely ignored until July 1993, when the Congressional Postmaster Robert Rota pleaded guilty to three criminal charges, implicating Representatives Dan Rostenkowski (D-IL), Joe Kolter (D-PA) and his then Chief of Staff.
      The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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      • #33
        Originally posted by seer View Post
        That is an understatement, I mean what did they ever give the world besides half way decent wool...
        They export lamb.

        Ok, what did the Kiwis do for us apart from decent wool and lamb chops?

        What about kiwi fruit? Also, kiwis are cute.

        So what did the NZers do for us apart from export wool and chops and renamed gooseberries and silly-looking birds?

        They've got a great rugby team...
        They were the first country to give all women the vote...

        Ok, so they're good at sport and suffrage. But apart from that...

        Russell Crowe from Gladiator was born there...
        So was Peter Jackon of LotR fame...
        So were Flight of the Conchords...
        And Lucy Lawless! Who can forget Xena Warrior Princess...

        Right, but apart from wool, lamb chops, fruit, birds, rugby, universal suffrage, Russell Crowe, Lord of the Rings, Flight of the Conchords and Xena Warrior Princess - what have the Kiwis ever done for us?

        They supported Greenpeace against the French government.

        Green peace off.
        Jorge: Functional Complex Information is INFORMATION that is complex and functional.

        MM: First of all, the Bible is a fixed document.
        MM on covid-19: We're talking about an illness with a better than 99.9% rate of survival.

        seer: I believe that so called 'compassion' [for starving Palestinian kids] maybe a cover for anti Semitism, ...

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        • #34
          Originally posted by Mountain Man View Post
          Eh, you can find a poll or a study that says anything you want.
          Even that, I expect.
          Jorge: Functional Complex Information is INFORMATION that is complex and functional.

          MM: First of all, the Bible is a fixed document.
          MM on covid-19: We're talking about an illness with a better than 99.9% rate of survival.

          seer: I believe that so called 'compassion' [for starving Palestinian kids] maybe a cover for anti Semitism, ...

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          • #35
            Originally posted by Roy View Post
            Even that, I expect.
            After all, 57.3% of all statistics cited on the internet are totally made up.
            The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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            • #36
              Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
              After all, 57.3% of all statistics cited on the internet are totally made up.
              Nah, the figure is way higher than that. Are you just making this up? IIRC, it's closer to the 80-90% range.
              I DENOUNCE DONALD J. TRUMP AND ALL HIS IMMORAL ACTS.

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              • #37
                Originally posted by Zymologist View Post
                Nah, the figure is way higher than that. Are you just making this up? IIRC, it's closer to the 80-90% range.
                My figures came from Abraham Lincoln hisseff, and he don't lie.
                The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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                • #38
                  932-of-all-statistics-you-read-on-the-internet-are-made-up-on-the-spot-abraham-lincoln-1866.jpg

                  I'm always still in trouble again

                  "You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
                  "Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
                  "Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by Roy View Post
                    They supported Greenpeace against the French government.
                    To be fair, the NZ government of the time was pretty weak in it's handling of the situation. After the French government secret agents committed their act of terrorism against Greenpeace in our waters and our government caught them, it was a combination of "well, we don't really want to annoy the French all that much" and "um, what do we do now?"

                    I guess George Bush had a similar problem after his friends the Saudis did 9/11 and he decided he didn't want to go after Saudi Arabia so chose to invade Afghanistan and later Iraq instead.
                    "I hate him passionately", he's "a demonic force" - Tucker Carlson, in private, on Donald Trump
                    "Every line of serious work that I have written since 1936 has been written, directly or indirectly, against totalitarianism and for democratic socialism" - George Orwell
                    "[Capitalism] as it exists today is, in my opinion, the real source of evils. I am convinced there is only one way to eliminate these grave evils, namely through the establishment of a socialist economy" - Albert Einstein

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by Raphael View Post
                      Ummmm, I work exclusively with Local Government (as a consultant) in NZ. I would not call it very efficient.
                      I'll grant you that local councils are infamously inefficient.

                      That said, I could point you at any number of private companies that myself or friends have worked for that were/are absurdly inefficient.
                      "I hate him passionately", he's "a demonic force" - Tucker Carlson, in private, on Donald Trump
                      "Every line of serious work that I have written since 1936 has been written, directly or indirectly, against totalitarianism and for democratic socialism" - George Orwell
                      "[Capitalism] as it exists today is, in my opinion, the real source of evils. I am convinced there is only one way to eliminate these grave evils, namely through the establishment of a socialist economy" - Albert Einstein

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                      • #41
                        Every time I see "NZ" I read it as "Nazi"

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                        • #42
                          Originally posted by Sparko View Post
                          Every time I see "NZ" I read it as "Nazi"
                          Be watchful, stand firm in the faith, act like men, be strong.
                          1 Corinthians 16:13

                          "...he [Doherty] is no historian and he is not even conversant with the historical discussions of the very matters he wants to pontificate on."
                          -Ben Witherington III

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