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  • Originally posted by Sparko View Post
    If JimL truly wanted to go by what the majority wants then he would be against abortion,
    The majority support abortion according to Pew Research: “About six-in-ten U.S. adults (59%) say abortion should be legal in all or most cases, compared with 37% who say it should be illegal”.

    and support the 10 commandments on public property, and prayer in school,
    Religious displays on public property, school prayer etc must pass constitutional muster by not violating the First Amendment’s establishment clause, which requires government “neutrality” towards religion.. In short, no Ten Commandments on public property and no school prayer.

    be against gay marriage and transsexual bathrooms
    But in favour of voting child-molesters into power.

    According to Pew Research, based on polling in 2017, a majority of Americans (62%) support same-sex marriage, while 32% oppose it.

    -- Since the majority of Americans are conservative Christians.
    The majority of Evangelicals also supported slavery. In fact the majority of Americans are no longer conservative Christians, just 38% according to Pew Research. .
    “He felt that his whole life was a kind of dream and he sometimes wondered whose it was and whether they were enjoying it.” - Douglas Adams.

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    • Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
      Yes, we are so blessed to have a government system that is so efficient and effective.
      As I explained, to provide a minimum standard of well-being to poor citizens across the nation it is necessary to have a centralized redistribution program. Private charity does not cut it because it is localized and inconsistent in quality and quantity across the country.

      It is possible for a government agency, like a private company, or a charity, to be woefully inefficient. It is also perfectly possible for them to be efficient. I am strongly, strongly in favor of government programs being constantly monitored and tweaked to ensure maximal efficiency. If you are upset by what you perceive to be inefficiency in some government programs, I suggest you contact your representative and/or vote for candidates who you believe will work to make them more efficient.

      However, the solution is not to abolish the government program and replace it with a private charity, because that simply results in minimum standards not being met, and unequal care or no care being provided in different regions. The correct solution is to have efficient government programs (which work well in my country and many others).

      Now I think it is totally reasonable to be a bit depressed about the possibilities regarding US government programs being able to be efficient, given the Republican party's determination to break government and to do everything they can to wreck government functions in their efforts to 'prove' that government can't work. However, if and when those terrorists are voted out of government, I see nothing inherently preventing the US government's ability to run efficient and effective government programs in general.

      Also, I think US conservatives hold false beliefs regarding how 'inefficient' existing US government programs actually are. Let's compared Medicare to private insurance schemes - in both cases money is put in (by the govt, or by the private person taking out the policy) and then money is paid out (for medical treatment). So we can ask of both schemes: What proportion of money put in ends up being paid out for medical treatment versus what proportion ends up 'wasted' in inefficiencies and overheads? Having a look at some data suggests that traditional, fully government run, medicare has administrative overheads around 1-2%, while if you include the privatized portion of Medicare, known as Medicare Advantage then the overheads are around 6%. Whereas the overheads for private insurance companies are typically in the 12% to 20% range (and used to be higher, but Obamacare set a maximum on how much they could waste on non-medical costs). So your existing government program appears to be substantially more efficient than your existing private programs that provide similar functions.
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      "[Capitalism] as it exists today is, in my opinion, the real source of evils. I am convinced there is only one way to eliminate these grave evils, namely through the establishment of a socialist economy" - Albert Einstein

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      • Originally posted by Tassman View Post

        The majority of Evangelicals also supported slavery. In fact the majority of Americans are no longer conservative Christians, just 38% according to Pew Research. .
        38% is still a majority as long as no other group is bigger than 38%.

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        • Originally posted by One Bad Pig View Post
          It's right where it's always been - hidden under the Latin, which is their motto.
          And well hidden it was. Retracted.

          Not that the site matches the motto.

          Hillary is an inveterate liar. That she would not have lied to the FBI, quite frankly, beggars belief. It takes some impressive twisting to pretend that she never lied to the FBI about sending classified information over her unprotected server.
          Looks like you've got it bad there, piglet.

          To those who see her as an inveterate liar, it may very well beggar belief. To the rest of us, who keep seeing the same handful of lies endlessly recycled across decades to make the case, what beggars belief is there's no embarrassment in maintaining the premise.

          Yes, she's lied, occasionally to burnish her self-image, as have we all. No, not often, and not stupidly, as would have been the case had she done so to the FBI. Now if we were to use the same criterion for speaking of the Patriot Post as written by inveterate liars ... well, that would be wrong.

          Accusations that require the reader to accept them with no evidence have no place on a site self-righteously proclaiming itself for truth, liberty, freedom, and God, assuming the latter is meant in a good sense. There's a lot of gods out there. Theirs seems ungodly focused on American politics.

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          • Originally posted by Chrawnus View Post
            38% is still a majority as long as no other group is bigger than 38%.
            Plurality.

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            • Originally posted by Chrawnus View Post
              38% is still a majority as long as no other group is bigger than 38%.
              Still not a majority (which is 50% +1 or more), but rather a plurality.

              I'm always still in trouble again

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              • Originally posted by lao tzu View Post
                Plurality.
                Originally posted by rogue06 View Post
                Still not a majority (which is 50% +1 or more), but rather a plurality.
                Ah, I guess I learned something new today. In Swedish we mostly call a plurality a relative majority.

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                • Originally posted by lao tzu View Post
                  Yes, she's lied, occasionally to burnish her self-image, as have we all. No, not often, and not stupidly, as would have been the case had she done so to the FBI.
                  You appear to be the one who's got it bad. You seriously believe she didn't know how to identify classified material? You seriously believe she thought Benghazi was over an internet movie? You seriously believe she'd lie to the public, but come clean with the FBI?
                  Accusations that require the reader to accept them with no evidence have no place on a site self-righteously proclaiming itself for truth, liberty, freedom, and God, assuming the latter is meant in a good sense.
                  If you'd been reading it regularly, you'd know that evidence had already been proffered in the past. It is rather atypical of them to hurl accusations without backup.
                  There's a lot of gods out there. Theirs seems ungodly focused on American politics.
                  Er, what? It's a political commentary site, focused on American politics. If you're looking for what they say about God, refer to their regular Easter and Christmas editions, which are generally politics-free.
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                  • Originally posted by One Bad Pig View Post
                    You appear to be the one who's got it bad. You seriously believe she didn't know how to identify classified material? You seriously believe she thought Benghazi was over an internet movie? You seriously believe she'd lie to the public, but come clean with the FBI?
                    If she was that incompetent, she should not have been Secretary of State much less run for President.

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                    • Originally posted by Starlight View Post
                      As I explained...
                      Hold on, lemme get my pillow....
                      The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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                      • Originally posted by One Bad Pig View Post
                        You appear to be the one who's got it bad. You seriously believe she didn't know how to identify classified material? You seriously believe she thought Benghazi was over an internet movie? You seriously believe she'd lie to the public, but come clean with the FBI?
                        I seriously believe she didn't lie to the FBI. And I seriously believe she doesn't have a hit squad. Because if either of those were true, we'd know it. Unless, ya know, there was some "deep state" conspiracy involved.


                        Yes, you've got it bad, and no, you're not helping turn that accusation around.

                        How did Benghazi sneak into this discussion. I don't know what she thought about Benghazi, and can't recall ever posting about her opinion on that topic, but I do know the focus on the video came from the CIA, not State. Those were their talking points.

                        The video played an important role in the breach of the Cairo embassy. As it turns out, it played a minor role in Benghazi as well. Early intelligence is often wrong, but that's what the intelligence community was saying at the time.

                        The NYTimes did an in-depth write up in December 2013, carefully researched, quality journalism. You can navigate between chapters at the top. Discussion of the video appears in ...

                        A Deadly Mix in Benghazi / Chapter 4 / A Fuse is Lit
                        Then, on Sept. 8, a popular Islamist preacher lit the fuse by screening a clip of the video on the ultraconservative Egyptian satellite channel El Nas. American diplomats in Cairo raised the alarm in Washington about a growing backlash, including calls for a protest outside their embassy.

                        No one mentioned it to the American diplomats in Libya. But Islamists in Benghazi were watching. Egyptian satellite networks like El Nas and El Rahma were widely available in Benghazi. “It is Friday morning viewing,” popular on the day of prayer, said one young Benghazi Islamist who turned up at the compound during the attack, speaking on the condition of anonymity for fear of reprisals.

                        But read the whole thing, and you'll find that it was an entirely different issue, a rumor about abuses of muslims at the compound, that cost Stevens his personally selected local security forces, and consequently his life, along with the lives of the three Americans protecting him.

                        And now I'm going to say something far more serious. It's time, and past time, for partisans to let the bodies of these Americans rest in peace. Stop despoiling our dead.

                        Religious extremists hung our guys from a bridge in Mogadishu, and dragged them through the streets in Mogadishu, but they did it for political purposes.

                        Be better than them.

                        If you'd been reading it regularly, you'd know that evidence had already been proffered in the past. It is rather atypical of them to hurl accusations without backup.
                        Then this one's atypical, but it's still wrong. And no, I won't be reading it regularly.

                        *cough* *deep state* *cough*

                        Er, what? It's a political commentary site, focused on American politics. If you're looking for what they say about God, refer to their regular Easter and Christmas editions, which are generally politics-free.
                        Veritas vos Liberatos is John 8:32. That's why I always assumed it linked to a Christian site.

                        Pro Deo et Libertate is on their masthead.

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                        • Originally posted by Chrawnus View Post
                          Ah, I guess I learned something new today. In Swedish we mostly call a plurality a relative majority.
                          Relative majority works, too.

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