Daniel Shavers killer walks free.

[One Bad Pig]

I'm not the one who keeps bringing up the topic that is the subject of the Wikipedia page. Quit being a jackass.

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[Mountain Man]

You say, "Let me make it clear for you," and then you proceed to blur all the issues...

That you found my explanation in any way confusing doesn't say much for you or your "law duh-gree". I feel the need to tell you that "Your honor, the opposing counsel is talking over my head!" is not a valid objection in a court of law.

[Obsidian]

I didn't say your explanation was confusing. I said your explanation is confused. But truthfully, by this point I no longer think you're confused. I think you're just a troll.

[Mountain Man]

You claimed that I blurred the issues, which suggests to me that you didn't understand my post. At all.

[Obsidian]

[Mountain Man]

The officer appeared to have reason to believe his life and the life of his fellow officer was in danger. Therefore, it appears he acted in self-defense. Therefore, the charge of murder was not proven beyond a reasonable doubt.

Even someone with a mail-order law degree should understand this.

[Obsidian]

Someone who doesn't value human life would understand it just fine.

[Sparko]

Obsidian you have shown that you are completely clueless when it comes to the law or how to even read it. You claim to have a "law license" -- can you explain what that means? What job do you have with this "law license?"

I predict he will ignore or handwave my post away.

I guess it is "ignore" then.

"law license"

[Mountain Man]

Here's his law degree...

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[demi-conservative]

I admit to being emotionally affected by this. I'm an autist. In a high stress situation like that, I'd try my best to follow orders but I'd get confused quickly. I wouldn't do any better, and apparently I'd get shot. I'd die in that situation. So if I go to the US, apparently I should stay as far away from cops as I can?

Well, clearly many of them getting more and more trigger-happy just on one suspicious movement. So basically sounds like you shouldn't go at all, if you don't want risk of that!

[demi-conservative]

One Bad Pig and Cow Poke, can you really defend what is going on in this video? How could a guy like this, stay on the force, for so long, without getting the boot? How can it be legal for an officer to do something like this to an innocent man?

More outrage fodder for you: http://www.kansas.com/news/local/cri...192147194.html !!!

[Adrift]

More outrage fodder for you: http://www.kansas.com/news/local/cri...192147194.html !!!

What the heck is wrong with you? Why would you use a video of a grieving family to instigate a fellow Christian? That's sick man. You need to grow up.

[Obsidian]

These police murders will continue to happen so long as Christians like Sparko and Mountain man keep condoning them.

[One Bad Pig]

These police murders will continue to happen so long as Christians like Sparko and Mountain man keep condoning them.

Instead of bothering to defend yourself, you cast more aspersions? Nice. Guess that answers the question of how seriously we should take your assertions.

[Obsidian]

Again they used the exact same excuse: The unarmed, completely innocent man was making movements around his waistline (this time at his own front door). In reality, that is simply not a biblical justification to kill someone. The people who condone this police policy have blood on their hands. It needs to change. And the officers at fault need to be put to death.