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Originally posted by Obsidian View PostThe point is that "Jewish law" is corrupt. Why in the world would we care how those sinners interpret the Bible?Belief in angels doesn't mean anything. Pretty much all religions believe in angels,and plenty of atheists.
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Originally posted by Starlight View PostThe widespread failure of the so called 'Christian' church to follow the teachings of Jesus...The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by Cow Poke View PostYou mean, only the teachings of Jesus you want us to follow, and as you completely misrepresent them.
But then again, he wrote a book that all his like-minded friends tell him is really cool.
I'm always still in trouble again
"You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
"Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
"Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman
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Originally posted by Obsidian View PostThe point is that "Jewish law" is corrupt. Why in the world would we care how those sinners interpret the Bible? Belief in angels doesn't mean anything. Pretty much all religions believe in angels, and plenty of atheists.The ultimate weakness of violence is that it is a descending spiral begetting the very thing it seeks to destroy...returning violence for violence multiplies violence, adding deeper darkness to a night already devoid of stars. Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that. Martin Luther King
I would unite with anybody to do right and with nobody to do wrong. Frederick Douglas
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Originally posted by TassmanThere is NO opposition to abortion in the Bible.
Exodus 21:22-25
The KJV offers a fairly literal translation of this passage, and it's very self-explanatory.
And although the passage is primarily about harm inflicted to an innocent bystander who happens to be a baby, obviously the same principle applies to other bystanders as well. In law, this is referred to as "transferred intent." You're intending to shoot someone and instead you shoot someone else -- still murder. You recklessly assault anyone -- still assault.Last edited by Obsidian; 12-16-2017, 11:56 AM.
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Originally posted by carpedm9587 View PostYou know atheists that believe in angels?"As for my people, children are their oppressors, and women rule over them. O my people, they which lead thee cause thee to err, and destroy the way of thy paths." Isaiah 3:12
There is no such thing as innocence, only degrees of guilt.
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Originally posted by Cerebrum123 View PostI know one that believes in demons, so this wouldn't surprise me.The ultimate weakness of violence is that it is a descending spiral begetting the very thing it seeks to destroy...returning violence for violence multiplies violence, adding deeper darkness to a night already devoid of stars. Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that. Martin Luther King
I would unite with anybody to do right and with nobody to do wrong. Frederick Douglas
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Originally posted by Darth Executor View Posti saw a poll once that had about half of atheists believing in god so anything is possible."I am not angered that the Moral Majority boys campaign against abortion. I am angry when the same men who say, "Save OUR children" bellow "Build more and bigger bombers." That's right! Blast the children in other nations into eternity, or limbless misery as they lay crippled from "OUR" bombers! This does not jell." - Leonard Ravenhill
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Originally posted by Obsidian View PostThere is no specific prohibition of abortion, because the Bible places the baby on the same legal footing as everyone else. It is simply viewed as homicide. Your rabbi friends that you are quoting are serpents and white-washed tombs, who can't think straight.
Exodus 21:22-25
The KJV offers a fairly literal translation of this passage, and it's very self-explanatory.
And although the passage is primarily about harm inflicted to an innocent bystander who happens to be a baby, obviously the same principle applies to other bystanders as well. In law, this is referred to as "transferred intent." You're intending to shoot someone and instead you shoot someone else -- still murder. You recklessly assault anyone -- still assault.
If men, while fighting, do damage to a woman with child, causing the loss of the child, but no other evil comes to her, the man will have to make payment up to the amount fixed by her husband, in agreement with the decision of the judges. But if damage comes to her, let life be given in payment for life, Eye for eye, tooth for tooth, hand for hand, foot for foot, Burning for burning, wound for wound, blow for blow.Last edited by kiwimac; 12-16-2017, 07:13 PM."Obama is not a brown-skinned, anti-war socialist who gives away free healthcare. You are thinking of Jesus." Episcopal Bishop of Arizona
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Originally posted by KingsGambit View PostThen they're not atheists.
But I would say the possibility that this universe was created by some alien scientists in some other universe who were tinkering around with singularities is nonzero. And I think the possibility that this world is actually a fully immersive massively multiplayer computer game has a pretty high probability. Being an atheist with regard to revealed religions hardly stops me being thoughtful about metaphysics in general."I hate him passionately", he's "a demonic force" - Tucker Carlson, in private, on Donald Trump
"Every line of serious work that I have written since 1936 has been written, directly or indirectly, against totalitarianism and for democratic socialism" - George Orwell
"[Capitalism] as it exists today is, in my opinion, the real source of evils. I am convinced there is only one way to eliminate these grave evils, namely through the establishment of a socialist economy" - Albert Einstein
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Originally posted by JimL View PostPeople decide not to get insurance mostly because they believe that they can't afford it. When they realize that through the ACA, aka Obamacare, they can afford it, then they are happy to be able to get it.Thats why another 1 million signed up for it this year. And if Trump and republicans like yourself would just get out of the way and stop trying to undermine it, we would all be better off."The man from the yacht thought he was the first to find England; I thought I was the first to find Europe. I did try to found a heresy of my own; and when I had put the last touches to it, I discovered that it was orthodoxy."
GK Chesterton; Orthodoxy
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Then there's the real kick when you have to actually use the insurance, and your deductible is nowhere near affordable.
Deductibles for individuals enrolled in the lowest-priced Obamacare health plans will average more than $6,000 in 2017, the first time that threshold has been cracked in the three years that Affordable Care Act marketplaces have been in business, a new analysis finds.
Families enrolled in bronze plans will have average deductibles of $12,393, according to the study by the consumer insurance comparison site HealthPocket.
A deductible is the amount of money someone must personally pay out of pocket for health services before insurance covers the remaining cost.
Obamacare deductibles are on the rise for 2017, along with monthly premiums
Yeah, I know - all Trump's fault.The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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