I no longer consider myself pro-life

[rogue06]

Well, according to you guys, Jesus would make Bernie sell all three of his houses, and give up his "top 1%" earner status!

Bernie would probably decline, and say (what was it Jimmy falsely reported the 'rich man' said?) 'it ain't gonna happen', the Jesus could go on to explain 'it's harder for a rich dude like Bernie to get into Heaven...".

So, Jesus would use Bernie as an object lesson in 'whose a loser'.

Like so many other liberals Sanders wants to show his charity by giving away other people's money and keeping his own.

[Cow Poke]

Like so many other liberals Sanders wants to show his charity by giving away other people's money and keeping his own.

Yup - classic liberal OPM mentality. And, since Joe Biden thinks you show your patriotism by paying taxes, liberals should pay LOTS more taxes!

(Wasn't Jimmy the one who claimed there was 'no mechanism' to give money to the government outside of your taxes due?)

[stfoskey15]

I think the main emphasis is that we should care for poor people.

When the Good Samaritan came across a man in need, he didn't call some government agency, or take him there to sign him up for public assistance - he took care of the matter himself, with his own money, because he cared.

Sure. And sometimes government services can be used to care for poor people. Obviously they shouldn't be used in place of helping on an individual level, but a lot of people on here seem to view it as an either/or situation, which I don't understand.

[Cow Poke]

Sure. And sometimes government services can be used to care for poor people. Obviously they shouldn't be used in place of helping on an individual level, but a lot of people on here seem to view it as an either/or situation, which I don't understand.

Since I pay taxes AND personally contribute directly to persons, I don't mind pointing them to government assistance when it's applicable.

[Starlight]

Well, according to you guys, Jesus would make Bernie sell all three of his houses, and give up his "top 1%" earner status!

Right wingers always attack left-wing politicians for:
- having too much money (which supposedly shows they don't care enough about the poor)
and
- having too little money (which supposedly shows they can't handle their own finances and therefore can't be trusted with the taxpayers' finances)

In all elections I have observed, any significantly-leftist politician has been attacked for at least one of those things and usually both (both were used against Bernie in 2016). I have concluded that there is no amount of money that a leftist politician is allowed to have according to right-wingers, and am at the point where I just laugh at such accusations.

In the case of US Senators they are paid pretty well because it is necessary for them to maintain a residence in D.C. in addition to their home state and thus they must be able to afford at least 2 houses from their salary. Given Bernie has been in his high-paying Senate job for many years now, one would expect him to be pretty well-off financially. In my country, owning a holiday house (known as a "bach" here, pronounced 'batch') in addition to your own home is normal practice and is a very middle-class thing to do.

Regardless of his personal finances, Bernie has a life-long history of consistently fighting hard politically for more money for the poor (not to mention the rights of minorities), and I am convinced he has honesty and integrity in that regard. He is probably the only US politician who I 100% respect and admire.

Given he is a Jew not a Christian, I am unsure why you would expect him to follow Jesus' commands to give away all his money to the poor. But since you claim to be a Christian perhaps you should look into doing it yourself?

[Cow Poke]

Right wingers...

blah blah blah

[JimL]

So, I see we have one person here who actually understands what it is that he believes in, and, I assume, is actually happy to practice what that belief preaches. Good for you stfoskey! The rest of you are rather pathetic, I mean, even I don't believe in following what the biblical Jesus actually preaches which is, "if you want to be perfect, go, sell all your possesions, and give to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven." But you should, since it is supposedly your belief. But the main intent of the reading in that and in many other passages throughout the Old and New Testament is to care for the less fortunate amongst us, and when you make excuses for yourselves and vote for a party that wants to do away with government assistance for the poor you're not fooling anyone but yourselves.

[Cow Poke]

So, I see we have one person here who actually understands what it is that he believes in...

And it's certainly not you. You can't even figure out if your an atheist or an agnostic.

[Cow Poke]

...Jesus actually preaches which is, "if you want to be perfect, go, sell all your possesions, and give to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven...".

You're showing your gross ignorance again, Jimmy.... it was an incident where Jesus told this to the rich young ruler, probably a Jew. It wasn't something that He "preaches". And your goofy pretend response from the rich man earlier was also made up. Here's a fairly good account of that incident written simply enough that maybe even you can understand.

[Obsidian]

In fact you can even call me pro death. I still think abortion is murder and evil, but since the people committing it are overwhelmingly enemies, who am I to deny them their own culling?

The people committing it are overwhelmingly enemies, but the victims of it are not. And God's punishment on the nation happens to the collective.

[Darth Executor]

The people committing it are overwhelmingly enemies, but the victims of it are not. And God's punishment on the nation happens to the collective.

Were the children of the amalekites, which God ordered executed, enemies?

[lilpixieofterror]

So, I see we have one person here who actually understands what it is that he believes in, and, I assume, is actually happy to practice what that belief preaches. Good for you stfoskey! The rest of you are rather pathetic, I mean, even I don't believe in following what the biblical Jesus actually preaches which is, "if you want to be perfect, go, sell all your possesions, and give to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven." But you should, since it is supposedly your belief. But the main intent of the reading in that and in many other passages throughout the Old and New Testament is to care for the less fortunate amongst us, and when you make excuses for yourselves and vote for a party that wants to do away with government assistance for the poor you're not fooling anyone but yourselves.

My dear Jimmy, if that was an absolute commandment to all followers, why are there rich followers of Jesus during his lifetime and after the ascension? Most actual students of the Bible figured that Jesus was telling the rich, young ruler that his stuff was what was holding him back and he needed to rid himself of it. However; that isn’t true for everyone and thus not everyone needs to do the same. You do get that principle, right Jimmy?

[Obsidian]

Were the children of the amalekites, which God ordered executed, enemies?

No. They were killed for other reasons -- as specially commanded by God.

[Darth Executor]

No. They were killed for other reasons -- as specially commanded by God.

This sounds like the same argument pacifists make against warfare and killing in general.

[Obsidian]

This sounds like the same argument pacifists make against warfare and killing in general.

I don't care what it "sounds like." The Bible expressly says that in normal cases, you aren't supposed to kill all the babies.

Deuteronomy 20:14
[B]ut the women, and the little ones, and the cattle, and all that is in the city, even all the spoil thereof, shalt thou take unto thyself; and thou shalt eat the spoil of thine enemies, which the Lord thy God hath given thee.

To be pro-choice is to be in grave sin. Period. And one of the reasons why the Canaanites were cursed was for tolerating child murder.