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  • So, the kids are getting older...

    I was a former frequent poster, but have had different interests and priorities arise. I am an atheist, happily married (now 14yrs) to a Christian. We have three children (9, 5, and 2ish). I am frequently asked by 9 and 5 about why I do not believe. I find this a difficult question to answer without an extrordinary amount of detail. I keep whittling down my answer trying to get it in a ballpark they can understand. By time I think I have the right balance, the explanation is so diluted that I find it unsatisfactory. I am sure some believers could argue the same and be right in their explanatory abilities and similar frustrations (but wrong in their conclusions 😎).

    My main reasons for atheism reside in molecular biology, chemistry, and evolution.

    Other reasons abound in History and the evolution of religions (especially Judaism).

    What are the topics you find the most difficult to explain about religious or non-religious beliefs to your children? Being an atheist, I think I have a steeper hill to climb in explanatory requirements and a theist has a built-in backdoor with hyperactive agency detection; as any parent, who has to reassure their children that its perfectly okay to go upstairs and the noise they heard is just the furnace, can attest. Do any theists here believe the table is actually tilted in an atheists favor and that it is harder for the theist?

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    not surprised, it takes years to convince a kid who can see that he's actually blind
    "As for my people, children are their oppressors, and women rule over them. O my people, they which lead thee cause thee to err, and destroy the way of thy paths." Isaiah 3:12

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    • #3
      Originally posted by showmeproof View Post

      My main reasons for atheism reside in molecular biology, chemistry, and evolution.
      I profoundly disagree with you that science somehow supports atheism.

      I'm always still in trouble again

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      • #4
        Originally posted by rogue06 View Post
        I profoundly disagree with you that science somehow supports atheism.
        same here. To me all that shows that it could not have been an accident. All this order and complexity down to the subatomic level just happened? From nothing? It takes more faith to believe that then to believe in God.

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        • #5
          It's all about Jesus. Him crucified, buried and risen again, after living a sinless life.
          The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by showmeproof View Post
            Other reasons abound in History and the evolution of religions (especially Judaism).
            I personally find the History of Religions school to be a rather implausible hypothesis for how religion developed.
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            • #7
              That was piffy, congrats. In all seriousness though, it is akin to teaching that we have additional tools that allow us to see, other than our eyes, and that for many intents and purposes we were blind.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by showmeproof View Post
                That was piffy, congrats. In all seriousness though, it is akin to teaching that we have additional tools that allow us to see, other than our eyes, and that for many intents and purposes we were blind.
                Amazing Grace, how sweet the sound.
                The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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                • #9
                  Thats is fine, but the sky hook is much more implausible. To the OP, what do you find difficult to explain to children about your religious beliefs?

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
                    Amazing Grace, how sweet the sound.
                    that saved a normally functioning primate like me.

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                    • #11
                      Tell your kids to read The Case for Christ.

                      Or, better yet, read it to them.


                      Securely anchored to the Rock amid every storm of trial, testing or tribulation.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by mossrose View Post
                        Tell your kids to read The Case for Christ.
                        Or, better yet, read it to them.
                        No thanks. Again, to the OP, what do you find hard to teach your kids about your religious beliefs.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by showmeproof View Post
                          No thanks. Again, to the OP, what do you find hard to teach your kids about your religious beliefs.

                          Why not read it? Maybe you can learn something from an atheist who set about disproving the resurrection.

                          I didn't find it hard to teach my kids about my faith. It was just how we live, every day.

                          Then they made their own choice to follow Christ.

                          If you can't figure out what to tell your children about why you don't believe, then maybe you need to think harder about why you don't believe.


                          Securely anchored to the Rock amid every storm of trial, testing or tribulation.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
                            It's all about Jesus. Him crucified, buried and risen again, after living a sinless life.
                            I am not asking what Christianity is about...got that part down, thanks. However, if you mean to state that this is a hard sell, i would agree.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by mossrose View Post
                              Why not read it? Maybe you can learn something from an atheist who set about disproving the resurrection.
                              I have read it. If you think Strobel was trying to disprove the resurrection, I have to wonder whether you have read it.

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