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    Has Support for Moore Stained Evangelicals?

    Has Support for Moore Stained Evangelicals?

    The editor in chief of Christianity Today did not have to wait for the votes to be counted to publish his essay on Tuesday bemoaning what the Alabama Senate race had wrought.

    The Biggest Loser in the Alabama Election

    No matter the outcome of today’s special election in Alabama for a coveted US Senate seat, there is already one loser: Christian faith. When it comes to either matters of life and death or personal commitments of the human heart, no one will believe a word we say, perhaps for a generation. Christianity’s integrity is severely tarnished.

    I understand Mr. Galli's concern.

    I'm happy when folks confuse atheism with humanism, and less pleased when it's associated with the erstwhile USSR, proud when it's identified with Bertrand Russell, and embarrassed when it's confused with YouTube mythicists.

    On the masthead of a site I recently encountered is the phrase, "Pro Deo et ..."

    Tying up one's religious affiliation, or lack of it, to anything else is probably a mistake. It's certainly poor branding. You don't want your identity tarnished by someone else's actions, and that will happen, inevitably.

    Galli's wrong, of course. He's right that it's stained the evangelical movement, but that's hardly the heart of Christian integrity. Christianity is much larger than evangelicalism.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lao tzu View Post
    Has Support for Moore Stained Evangelicals?

    The editor in chief of Christianity Today did not have to wait for the votes to be counted to publish his essay on Tuesday bemoaning what the Alabama Senate race had wrought.

    The Biggest Loser in the Alabama Election

    No matter the outcome of today’s special election in Alabama for a coveted US Senate seat, there is already one loser: Christian faith. When it comes to either matters of life and death or personal commitments of the human heart, no one will believe a word we say, perhaps for a generation. Christianity’s integrity is severely tarnished.

    I understand Mr. Galli's concern.

    I'm happy when folks confuse atheism with humanism, and less pleased when it's associated with the erstwhile USSR, proud when it's identified with Bertrand Russell, and embarrassed when it's confused with YouTube mythicists.

    On the masthead of a site I recently encountered is the phrase, "Pro Deo et ..."

    Tying up one's religious affiliation, or lack of it, to anything else is probably a mistake. It's certainly poor branding. You don't want your identity tarnished by someone else's actions, and that will happen, inevitably.

    Galli's wrong, of course. He's right that it's stained the evangelical movement, but that's hardly the heart of Christian integrity. Christianity is much larger than evangelicalism.
    Although Christianity Today is an evangelical periodical, so I suppose from his perspective what he means by christianity is, evangelical christianity.

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    This is why moralizing in the age of chaos is pointless. Liberals have butchered tens of millions of unborn children, people shrug. Evangelicals vote for some guy who may or may not have tried to marry a 14 year old, lots of chest beating and hair pulling.

    There's a line from a verse I always remember from being forced to go to church when I was a small kid. I forget the context all the time, but the last part stands out: "Among whom I am chief". There's something to be said for branding yourself as the devil.
    "As for my people, children are their oppressors, and women rule over them. O my people, they which lead thee cause thee to err, and destroy the way of thy paths." Isaiah 3:12

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    Tell us Moore.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JimL View Post
    Although Christianity Today is an evangelical periodical, so I suppose from his perspective what he means by christianity is, evangelical christianity.
    Sometimes you can gain valuable clues by actually reading the article linked in the OP.

    He said that his readers seemed to agree with the thrust of his essay. The main criticism he received, he said, was one he agreed with: that he should have made it clearer that he was referring not to all Christians, but to evangelicals in particular.

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    Rumor has it that a Christianity Today editorial is in the works: What God needs to do next.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lao tzu View Post
    Has Support for Moore Stained Evangelicals?

    The editor in chief of Christianity Today did not have to wait for the votes to be counted to publish his essay on Tuesday bemoaning what the Alabama Senate race had wrought.

    The Biggest Loser in the Alabama Election

    No matter the outcome of today’s special election in Alabama for a coveted US Senate seat, there is already one loser: Christian faith. When it comes to either matters of life and death or personal commitments of the human heart, no one will believe a word we say, perhaps for a generation. Christianity’s integrity is severely tarnished.

    I understand Mr. Galli's concern.

    I'm happy when folks confuse atheism with humanism, and less pleased when it's associated with the erstwhile USSR, proud when it's identified with Bertrand Russell, and embarrassed when it's confused with YouTube mythicists.

    On the masthead of a site I recently encountered is the phrase, "Pro Deo et ..."

    Tying up one's religious affiliation, or lack of it, to anything else is probably a mistake. It's certainly poor branding. You don't want your identity tarnished by someone else's actions, and that will happen, inevitably.

    Galli's wrong, of course. He's right that it's stained the evangelical movement, but that's hardly the heart of Christian integrity. Christianity is much larger than evangelicalism.
    It's sad that a surface glance is sufficient to stain anyone. Moore was damned in the court of public opinion, and anyone who supported him was tarred with the same brush. This despite the fact that Moore was not formally charged with anything, and that almost nobody supported him because he had allegedly done what he had been alleged to have done.

    That said, Christians hitching themselves to deeply flawed characters in hopes that they will enact parts of a Christian agenda are pretty much doomed to failure. We are in an effectively post-Christian culture, and the culture war has been lost for decades. See, e.g., Rod Dreher's The Benedict Option.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cow Poke View Post
    Sometimes you can gain valuable clues by actually reading the article linked in the OP.

    He said that his readers seemed to agree with the thrust of his essay. The main criticism he received, he said, was one he agreed with: that he should have made it clearer that he was referring not to all Christians, but to evangelicals in particular.
    Actually no, he needn't make a distinction, evangelicals are christians, they believe the same things that all christians believe, so they are representative of christianity. So when he says the only loser was the christian faith, he was speaking for christianity in general.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JimL View Post
    Actually no, he needn't make a distinction, evangelicals are christians, they believe the same things that all christians believe, so they are representative of christianity. So when he says the only loser was the christian faith, he was speaking for christianity in general.
    How bout you go to your room and work on the difference between atheist and agnostic. When ya got that figgered out, then you can pretend you know what Christians believe.

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