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    Sun is Blank

    OK, you science types....

    bogus website? Hype? What's this all about?

    The sun is blank, NASA data shows it to be dimming


    As the sun gets successively more blank with each day, due to lack of sunspots, it is also dimming. According to data from NASA’s Spaceweather, so far in 2017, 96 days (27%) of the days observing the sun have been without sunspots. Here is the view today from the NASA Solar Dynamics Observatory satellite:

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cow Poke View Post
    OK, you science types....

    bogus website? Hype?
    Yes to both. Watts' is a well-known climate crank.

    What's this all about?
    It's hard to tell what's set him off this time, but it's been well known that sunspot activity affects irradiance for, well, a lot longer than any of us have been following climate science. Variations in sunspot activity have been noted since Galileo, centuries in any case. The 11-year sunspot cycle has been known nearly as long.

    Not that it makes any difference to cranks, but Watts really shouldn't be blasting off about dimming considering he's been pushing the idea that the sun has been driving temperatures higher for years. He's going to be wrong against the science, given his history, but it would help if he at least tried not to be wrong against himself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cow Poke View Post
    OK, you science types....

    bogus website? Hype? What's this all about?

    The sun is blank, NASA data shows it to be dimming


    As the sun gets successively more blank with each day, due to lack of sunspots, it is also dimming. According to data from NASA’s Spaceweather, so far in 2017, 96 days (27%) of the days observing the sun have been without sunspots. Here is the view today from the NASA Solar Dynamics Observatory satellite:

    latest_512_hmiic1.jpg
    The guys a crackpot climate change denier cited by many here on tweb in past debates on global warming.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lao tzu View Post
    Yes to both. Watts' is a well-known climate crank.
    Ah, ok. I kinda thought I remembered something about this, so....

    Thanks

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cow Poke View Post
    OK, you science types....

    bogus website? Hype? What's this all about?
    I think it's worthwhile to note that the basic fact here - the sun's in a period of relatively low activity, and that's included periods without sunspots - is fine. Where Watts will go wrong is interpreting that as "so we can expect the earth to start cooling." He's even repeated claims that it's going to be plunging us into a mini-ice age in the coming decades.

    Which is all bogus. Scientists aren't idiots, and we can measure the amount of incoming solar radiation and calculate the magnitude of its effect on the earth's energy balance. We can do the same for greenhouse gasses. And we know that the greenhouse effect will swamp the effect of the changes in solar cycle. And, in fact, when we do the measurements, that's exactly what we see:


    Watts, of course, relies on people being willing to believe that scientists are idiots.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheLurch View Post
    I think it's worthwhile to note that the basic fact here - the sun's in a period of relatively low activity, and that's included periods without sunspots - is fine. Where Watts will go wrong is interpreting that as "so we can expect the earth to start cooling." He's even repeated claims that it's going to be plunging us into a mini-ice age in the coming decades.

    Which is all bogus. Scientists aren't idiots, and we can measure the amount of incoming solar radiation and calculate the magnitude of its effect on the earth's energy balance. We can do the same for greenhouse gasses. And we know that the greenhouse effect will swamp the effect of the changes in solar cycle. And, in fact, when we do the measurements, that's exactly what we see:


    Watts, of course, relies on people being willing to believe that scientists are idiots.
    Thanks

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    Looks like this has already been pretty well debunked before I had a chance to add my two cents smiley dejected.gif

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    Hmmm... cycles? The Sun gets moody? Except it's a ball of nuclear fusioning hydrogen and helium, so I doubt it has feelings.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rogue06 View Post
    Looks like this has already been pretty well debunked before I had a chance to add my two cents smiley dejected.gif
    When has that ever stopped you before?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cow Poke View Post
    When has that ever stopped you before?
    Usually I have something more to add that hasn't been covered.

    I'm always still in trouble again

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