Media Bias

[guacamole]

Yeah, I tested more extreme than I think I am. My self concept is more a pessimistic centrist.

I wonder if the test were rewritten occasionally if that would clarify scores.

[rogue06]

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Pretty conservative on economic issues less so on social ones

[Zymologist]

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Pretty conservative on economic issues considerably less so on social ones

I've taken it before and don't feel like taking it again, but I'm somewhere south of this.

[rogue06]

I've taken it before and don't feel like taking it again, but I'm somewhere south of this.

Other tests like the world's smallest political quiz put me far more into the libertarian camp -- and a bit to the left

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[guacamole]

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Not enough questions. Some are strange choices. No questions on abortion, for example. If you kinda tilt it, I'm close to where I'd be in the other quiz.

[Zymologist]

Other tests like the world's smallest political quiz put me far more into the libertarian camp -- and a bit to the left

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I've taken that one, too; IIRC, I'm at the very top.

[rogue06]

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Not enough questions. Some are strange choices. No questions on abortion, for example. If you kinda tilt it, I'm close to where I'd be in the other quiz.

IIRC it used to be longer with different questions and I used to land one space below pure libertarian

[guacamole]

IIRC it used to be longer with different questions and I used to land one space below pure libertarian

I feel like that was the one where I'd test closer to centrist.

[One Bad Pig]

So was that your perspective? That I was claiming to be "neutral?" If so, I would very much like to know where it comes from. It might explain why Jedidiah seems to think I'm a hypocrit. Ultimately, what someone else thinks of me doesn't change who and what I am - but if it is based on something I've been saying (or mis-saying), I'd like to know.

My perspective is that you claim to be "neutral" as in "neither right nor left" but I'm no longer certain where I got that impression. That you had problems with Obama doesn't mean you're not left (starlight, for example, had multiple problems with Obama because he considers him way too right-wing). From your arguments here, I'd say you're solidly left, but not far left.

[Cow Poke]

I'm sure this comes as absolutely no surprise to anybody.

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[carpedm9587]

Other tests like the world's smallest political quiz put me far more into the libertarian camp -- and a bit to the left

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You just made me snort coffee up my nose...

[rogue06]

I'm sure this comes as absolutely no surprise to anybody.

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Funny how your red dot is a different color and size than the one they use

[carpedm9587]

My perspective is that you claim to be "neutral" as in "neither right nor left" but I'm no longer certain where I got that impression. That you had problems with Obama doesn't mean you're not left (starlight, for example, had multiple problems with Obama because he considers him way too right-wing). From your arguments here, I'd say you're solidly left, but not far left.

Placing oneself on the political spectrum near center (slightly left, actually) and "being neutral" are not the same thing, OBP. Neutral means someone is not taking a stance on issues X, Y, or Z. I don't think any of my posts here were "neutral," as I noted. However, I make an effort to see the arguments of both sides and try to understand them - and I make an effort not to paint those who disagree with me as my enemies. I think we can debate, even vigorously, without having to attack, disparage, or call one another names. We can disagree without painting the opposition as "unamerican" or "evil." I make the assumption that someone making a case here is being honest and forthright. If I think their case is not consistent and has holes, I do not jump to the assumption they are a hypocrite. I assume people sometimes just don't see all of the elements and connect all of the dots - as I am sure is true of me more than occasionally.

As for my position on the spectrum, I'm comfortable with my self-assessment, and it has been confirmed by several of those "test." The discussions here, recently, have tended to be about social issues - and I am most definitely stronger left than right (by a lot) on social issues. I drift to the right on fiscal issues, but there have not been many of those thus far. And I dislike Trump in the extreme, as I have not been shy about expressing - further adding to the perception of my "leftness." But my objections to Trump are not primarily about policies. As I noted - a difference in policies is to be expected (Obama had many I did not agree with). I dislike Mr. Trump because of his personal flaws and the disrespect he brings to the office he holds.

[carpedm9587]

Funny how your red dot is a different color and size than the one they use

You think?

[Cow Poke]

Funny how your red dot is a different color and size than the one they use

Colors! Dadburn Colors!