Page 1 of 7 123 ... LastLast
Results 1 to 10 of 66

Thread: Tourette's Syndrome

  1. #1
    tWebber
    Join Date
    Jul 2017
    Faith
    Christian
    Gender
    Male
    Posts
    61
    Amen (Given)
    0
    Amen (Received)
    10

    Tourette's Syndrome

    Suppose someone has Tourette's Syndrome and he has vocal tics consisting of swear words. Does God hold him morally responsible for saying those swear words? I overheard some people at church talking about this and it piqued my curiosity. Some people were saying that since the person with Tourette's Syndrome is speaking those swear words involuntarily, then he can't be held morally responsible for saying those swear words. How would you respond to this?

  2. #2
    See, the Thing is... Cow Poke's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2014
    Location
    The Republic of Texas
    Faith
    Christian
    Gender
    Male
    Posts
    41,834
    Amen (Given)
    9052
    Amen (Received)
    20892
    My grandmother, who was a very godly woman all her life, spent her last few months in a nursing home swearing at everybody, to the shock and horror of my younger siblings. I just had to keep reminding them "that's not her".

    I realize that's different from Tourette's Syndrome's coprolalia, but I think, like with my gramma, you have to realize "that's not really that person".

    1 Tim 2:5 For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus.

  3. #3
    Troll Magnet Sparko's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2014
    Faith
    Christian
    Gender
    Male
    Posts
    39,848
    Amen (Given)
    3697
    Amen (Received)
    18607
    Quote Originally Posted by Cow Poke View Post
    My grandmother, who was a very godly woman all her life, spent her last few months in a nursing home swearing at everybody, to the shock and horror of my younger siblings. I just had to keep reminding them "that's not her".

    I realize that's different from Tourette's Syndrome's coprolalia, but I think, like with my gramma, you have to realize "that's not really that person".
    yep. God doesn't hold us responsible for physical or mental problems when people are not in control.

    but is cussing actually a sin? I can see someone being sinful AND cussing, maybe being mean to someone while tossing out cussing and other abuse at them. But what about just using swear words as exclamations? (not taking God in vain ones)

  4. Amen Obsidian, Christianbookworm amen'd this post.
  5. #4
    See, the Thing is... Cow Poke's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2014
    Location
    The Republic of Texas
    Faith
    Christian
    Gender
    Male
    Posts
    41,834
    Amen (Given)
    9052
    Amen (Received)
    20892
    Quote Originally Posted by Sparko View Post
    yep. God doesn't hold us responsible for physical or mental problems when people are not in control.

    but is cussing actually a sin? I can see someone being sinful AND cussing, maybe being mean to someone while tossing out cussing and other abuse at them. But what about just using swear words as exclamations? (not taking God in vain ones)
    It's cultural. In our house, we weren't allowed to say "shut up" - that was "the sh" word, which, in my neighbor's house, was the swear word for poop. We can say poop, but we can't say the 'sh" word, and we can say all kinds of euphemisms for the F word, but.....

    Yeah, that's always puzzled me. I think, for us Christians, anyway, the "biggie" is cursing involving blasphemy...

    1 Tim 2:5 For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus.

  6. Amen Jedidiah, Christianbookworm amen'd this post.
  7. #5
    Evolution is God's ID rogue06's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2014
    Location
    Southeastern U.S. of A.
    Faith
    Christian
    Gender
    Male
    Posts
    39,005
    Amen (Given)
    884
    Amen (Received)
    15388
    Quote Originally Posted by Cow Poke View Post
    It's cultural. In our house, we weren't allowed to say "shut up" - that was "the sh" word, which, in my neighbor's house, was the swear word for poop. We can say poop, but we can't say the 'sh" word, and we can say all kinds of euphemisms for the F word, but.....

    Yeah, that's always puzzled me. I think, for us Christians, anyway, the "biggie" is cursing involving blasphemy...
    I was sent to the principal's office in 4th grade for saying "darn it"

    I'm always still in trouble again

    You're by far the worst poster on TWeb -- starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)

  8. Amen The Remonstrant amen'd this post.
  9. #6
    Troll Magnet Sparko's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2014
    Faith
    Christian
    Gender
    Male
    Posts
    39,848
    Amen (Given)
    3697
    Amen (Received)
    18607
    Quote Originally Posted by Cow Poke View Post
    It's cultural. In our house, we weren't allowed to say "shut up" - that was "the sh" word, which, in my neighbor's house, was the swear word for poop. We can say poop, but we can't say the 'sh" word, and we can say all kinds of euphemisms for the F word, but.....

    Yeah, that's always puzzled me. I think, for us Christians, anyway, the "biggie" is cursing involving blasphemy...
    I try not to cuss because it is impolite. I don't particularly think it is a sin, since like you said why would one word for poop be OK and another be a sin?

    Our society considers certain words to be "cusswords" and we are raised to think of them that way too. We even have rules here on TWEB to prevent the use of them here, mostly to keep things civil as possible. Not because we think they are sinful (other than the blasphemous ones of course)

  10. Amen Jedidiah, Christianbookworm amen'd this post.
  11. #7
    See, the Thing is... Cow Poke's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2014
    Location
    The Republic of Texas
    Faith
    Christian
    Gender
    Male
    Posts
    41,834
    Amen (Given)
    9052
    Amen (Received)
    20892
    Quote Originally Posted by rogue06 View Post
    I was sent to the principal's office in 4th grade for saying "darn it"
    I was sent to the principal's office in 4th grade for making sheep sounds.


    (it wasn't me, it was Jimmy Newton - I was making cow sounds! )


    When the principal asked me if I was making sheep sounds, I honestly told him "no sir". He said, "Mr. Poke, I've never known you to lie - are you telling me you weren't making sheep sounds?" I said "Honest, Mr. Gallagher". He stared at me a minute, and said, "go back to class".

    1 Tim 2:5 For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus.

  12. #8
    Must...have...caffeine One Bad Pig's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2014
    Location
    Inside the beltway
    Faith
    Christian
    Gender
    Male
    Posts
    16,801
    Amen (Given)
    5144
    Amen (Received)
    9675
    Quote Originally Posted by Sparko View Post
    yep. God doesn't hold us responsible for physical or mental problems when people are not in control.

    but is cussing actually a sin? I can see someone being sinful AND cussing, maybe being mean to someone while tossing out cussing and other abuse at them. But what about just using swear words as exclamations? (not taking God in vain ones)
    Source: Eph. 5:4 NRSV

    Entirely out of place is obscene, silly, and vulgar talk; but instead, let there be thanksgiving.

    © Copyright Original Source

    Enter the Church and wash away your sins. For here there is a hospital and not a court of law. Do not be ashamed to enter the Church; be ashamed when you sin, but not when you repent. St. John Chrysostom

    Veritas vos Liberabit<>< Learn Greek <>< Look here for an Orthodox Church in America<><Ancient Faith Radio

    I recommend you do not try too hard and ...research as little as possible. Such weighty things give me a headache. - Shunyadragon, Baha'i apologist

  13. Amen lee_merrill amen'd this post.
  14. #9
    Evolution is God's ID rogue06's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2014
    Location
    Southeastern U.S. of A.
    Faith
    Christian
    Gender
    Male
    Posts
    39,005
    Amen (Given)
    884
    Amen (Received)
    15388
    Quote Originally Posted by Sparko View Post
    I try not to cuss because it is impolite. I don't particularly think it is a sin, since like you said why would one word for poop be OK and another be a sin?

    Our society considers certain words to be "cusswords" and we are raised to think of them that way too. We even have rules here on TWEB to prevent the use of them here, mostly to keep things civil as possible. Not because we think they are sinful (other than the blasphemous ones of course)
    For a long time I was good about not cussing. Back around 2005 I swore in front of my boss and he was shocked noting that he had never heard me swear before (in something like 3 years).

    Now, unfortunately, partially due to the folks I work with, I swear all too frequently. Something I need to work on.

    I'm always still in trouble again

    You're by far the worst poster on TWeb -- starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)

  15. #10
    Evolution is God's ID rogue06's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2014
    Location
    Southeastern U.S. of A.
    Faith
    Christian
    Gender
    Male
    Posts
    39,005
    Amen (Given)
    884
    Amen (Received)
    15388
    Quote Originally Posted by One Bad Pig View Post
    Source: Eph. 5:4 NRSV

    Entirely out of place is obscene, silly, and vulgar talk; but instead, let there be thanksgiving.

    © Copyright Original Source

    That doesn't mean that it is a sin but rather improper and "out of place"

    I'm always still in trouble again

    You're by far the worst poster on TWeb -- starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •