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    Mixing faith and science

    Normally the title phrase is a sign of problems. In this case, it's a positive. A nice profile of the head of the Vatican Observatory, and why the Vatican can do some research that doesn't fit well into the traditional grant funding model.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2017/12/22/w...agno.html?_r=0

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    The Bible is not a science book but correct me here wasn't there a super nova or nova about that time when Jesus was born. The wise men would likely have been Zoroastrian and from Persia seeing this as a sign which would be consistent with their beliefs. When evaluating data its very important to look at the eyes of the day and not our own.
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    And its a positive to consider scientific evidence. Not all Christians are incapable of separating religious studies and evidence from a purely neutral POV. Aka me oxmixmudd rogue kg
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheLurch View Post
    Normally the title phrase is a sign of problems. In this case, it's a positive. A nice profile of the head of the Vatican Observatory, and why the Vatican can do some research that doesn't fit well into the traditional grant funding model.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2017/12/22/w...agno.html?_r=0
    nice read. I hadn't thought about them being able to work independent of transient funding models and political priorities. (Assuming the RCC itself takes a mostly hands off approach to their choice of projects)

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    The text has the magi coming from the east following a star seen in the east. That would logically take them east making them from the west. The text is clear the magi came from the east and the star was seen in the east. Now this star did something no ordinary star ever does, ". . . the star, which they saw in the east, went before them, till it came and stood over where the young child was. . . ." -- Matthew 2:9.
    . . . the Gospel of Christ, for it is [the] power of God to salvation to every [one] believing, . . . -- Romans 1:16.

    . . . that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures; And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures: . . . -- 1 Corinthians 15:3, 4.

    Whosoever believeth that Jesus is the Christ is born of God: . . . -- 1 John 5:1.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 37818 View Post
    The text has the magi coming from the east following a star seen in the east. That would logically take them east making them from the west. The text is clear the magi came from the east and the star was seen in the east. Now this star did something no ordinary star ever does, ". . . the star, which they saw in the east, went before them, till it came and stood over where the young child was. . . ." -- Matthew 2:9.
    Yep. The "star" had to have been within the troposphere - and changed direction, what with Bethlehem being south of Jerusalem.
    και εκζητησατε με και ευρησετε με οτι ζητησετε με εν ολη καρδία υμων

  8. Amen 37818, lee_merrill amen'd this post.

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