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    1st century fragment of Mark -- Not what it's purported to be according to some

    This post I suppose is mainly directed to AP, who if I'm not mistaken said in another thread that the 1st century fragment of Mark that's been announced but not yet disclosed to the world is not what it's purported to be according to several Christians.

    I'm a bit of an archaeology nut and I was wondering why some would think this. Can anyone who's heard of this idea (or agrees with it) please give their argument for lack of authenticity here?

    I have sent a PM to AP regarding this thread.
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    Could this refer to Dead Sea Scroll fragment 7Q5, a Greek fragment which Spanish papyrologist Jose O'Callaghan claims contains Mark 6:52-53? It sounds a little farfetched to think that a Christian document would be among the scrolls.

    See https://www.preteristarchive.com/Bib.../7Q5_mark.html

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    No, definitely a different fragment. The one LS refers to comes from mummy packing material.
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    I heard about the fragment some time back, and what I really want to know is why everyone seems so hush-hush about it. Has anyone dated it yet?
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    Quote Originally Posted by QuantaFille View Post
    I heard about the fragment some time back, and what I really want to know is why everyone seems so hush-hush about it. Has anyone dated it yet?
    Everyone is hush-hush about it because they were required to sign a non-disclosure agreement.
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    Quote Originally Posted by One Bad Pig View Post
    Everyone is hush-hush about it because they were required to sign a non-disclosure agreement.
    I know. I'm asking why.
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    Quote Originally Posted by QuantaFille View Post
    I know. I'm asking why.
    Because the Green Collection, which is the name of the private collection of the founders of Hobby Lobby, want to make sure that all of their i's are dotted and t's are crossed before publishing their findings. They've been working intensely with a number of reputable archaeologists and scholars to get this just right, but have already gotten flack, mostly for the process used to come by the texts, which involved the destruction of mummy masks. But archaeology is a destructive process, and there really isn't any way around it. I think there was also a lot of nervousness about dates after the whole gospel of Jesus' wife hoax.

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