How Much Is A Woman Worth?

[Darth Executor]

Sorry KG, but I kind of disagree with you here. Red Pill thinking can be used wrongly and/or abused just like many other things. Take alcohol, used properly, and in moderation, there is (IMO) nothing wrong with the occasional nip. So too, Red Pill thinking can be taken to extremes, and abused, usually by those who simply do not actually understand the underlying principles. The foundation of RP is actually very biblical. The man in the article "Zach" obviously did not even understand the foundation. True RP thinking understands that leadership of the house is (and should be) earned, not conferred, and that many or most women prefer the husband to do the heavy lifting in terms of leadership, and feel much more secure and loved when their Husband does this. To go a little deeper, there's "good" alpha and "bad" alpha. Zach was using pretty exclusively bad alpha, and by that actually lost his wife's respect. Bad alpha isn't true RP thinking no matter how much those that employ it wish it to be.

don't take the story at face value and assume that what is described is what actually happened. it's a one-sided story that gives the perspective of one of the parties in a divorce (IE: about as unreliable as you can get).

[Darth Executor]

Well, I think this is the first time AP has ever been called a feminist.

Feminist is the wrong word for what a lot of American Christians are guilty of when they demand the reverence of women in general. I prefer the term "goddess worship" to describe it.

IE: "Women should be championed and revered” ~ Paul Ryan

[Cow Poke]

[Thespia]

Back to what was said:

Women, please don't put all your worth in whether or not you are having sex. The purity culture means well, but is extremely damaging. I know this first hand. I haven't had sex before marriage, but I also have had to deal with major baggage about my worth and also my future husband's worth based on sexual experience. If you choose to not have sex, do it because having sex is 1. a sin, 2. extremely damaging non-marriage relationships 3. bad for society in general, 4. leads men to not commit, and 5. Leads to other sins, such as using contraceptive.

Men, if you REALLY want to show a woman her worth, marry her and don't withhold anything from her.
Women, if you REALLY want to show a man his worth, marry him and don't withhold anything from him.

If you say "you are beautiful, and I'm willing to wait for marriage for you" but then in marriage you expect her to give you sex without giving *herself*, this is asking for a false thing.
When we use contraceptives, we are not giving our entire selves. Men, by using a condom or letting your wife use birth control, you are asking for sex without giving your entire self, which is your fertility and the ability to creative life (Imago Dei). You are saying "I want your body but not your whole self". It is a cheap cop out.

I'm sorry, but when I saw the usual flowery "romance a woman, show her her worth, etc" and "don't have sex before marriage", I had to add this. Have sex in marriage. Sex is giving, not withholding. Have REAL sex in marriage. Stop acting like a single person in a marriage and playing it safe.

Love isn't safe.

[Darth Executor]

^just say you want kids

[Thespia]

I really don't even like kids very much. But I know that marriage (and therefore, sex) is about giving yourself 100% and being open to that natural possibility. Therefore, I will accept children from the Lord if He gives them.