Black Lives Matter gets what they want, and it's not what they want

[Cow Poke]

I consider it an example of US right-wing nuttery that they have historically applied the "pro-family" label to themselves when almost all their policies are anti-family.

Because, as is typical with you, you drama-queenly nutball misrepresent "the right's" beliefs.

[KingsGambit]

It doesn't fit the left's anti-family pro-gay agenda.

I think putting it that sweepingly is unfair, sorry. In the two states I live on the border of, the Democrats focus heavily on economic issues, generally framing them in terms of helping working families. As the saying goes, all politics is local, so that's far more relevant to me than whatever the national party/celebrities/etc. do.

[Starlight]

Because, as is typical with you, you drama-queenly nutball misrepresent "the right's" beliefs.

Can you list any pro-family policies of the right? Or any anti-family policies of the left? I can't think of any myself.

But presumably you think there are some, so please, go ahead and in your own words state them... I wouldn't want to misrepresent you.

From my perspective the "pro-family" thing the right says comes across as being like the "support our troops" thing: Those positive statements are the only things they do positive on either issue, and they are just blatant hypocrites in trying to pretend the policy issues they're worst on are ones they're good on.

[EvoUK]

Can you list any pro-family policies of the right? Or any anti-family policies of the left? I can't think of any myself.

But presumably you think there are some, so please, go ahead and in your own words state them... I wouldn't want to misrepresent you.

From my perspective the "pro-family" thing the right says comes across as being like the "support our troops" thing: Those positive statements are the only things they do positive on either issue, and they are just blatant hypocrites in trying to pretend the policy issues they're worst on are ones they're good on.

You must have been on here long enough to at least see the arguments for this:

[Conservolibertarian]
Pro family because they don't want to murder innocent unborn children, nor do they wish to break up the nuclear family by allowing same sex couples to marry or (worse) adopt children.

As the left support the murder of our children and the breakup of the nuclear family- which goes to the heart of our countries values- they're by definition anti-family.
[/Conservolibertarian]

Clearly I don't particularly rate the above argument highly, but I do at least know what it is, and so I suspect, do you.

[Starlight]

You must have been on here long enough to at least see the arguments for this:

[Conservolibertarian]
Pro family because they don't want to murder innocent unborn children, nor do they wish to break up the nuclear family by allowing same sex couples to marry or (worse) adopt children.

As the left support the murder of our children and the breakup of the nuclear family- which goes to the heart of our countries values- they're by definition anti-family.
[/Conservolibertarian]

Clearly I don't particularly rate the above argument highly, but I do at least know what it is, and so I suspect, do you.

I don't consider views about abortion as having to do with being pro-family or anti-family, unless the meaning of the word family radically changed when I wasn't looking!

Obviously trying to prohibit same-sex families from having the parents marry, is anti those families, as is trying to prevent those families from adopting. I don't really understand how anyone could seriously think they are pro-family by being against gay families.

I'm being totally serious when I say that there are literally no policies I know of from conservative / right-wingers that are actually 'pro-family' in any way. Twisting 'pro-family' until it means 'anti-family' is not an argument I'm prepared to take seriously.

In no way do I see conservatives as actually pro-family, I see them as pretty clearly anti-family in everything from their gun policies that cause toddlers to shoot family members weekly in the US, to their opposition to paid parental leave that would allow parents to care for newborn children, to opposition to government funded preschool for the kids, to opposition to higher education spending for the kids, to opposition to medical care for everyone, to splitting families via ICE deportations, etc. You name the issue, and US conservatives are anti-family on it. Seriously.

[rogue06]

I don't consider views about abortion as having to do with being pro-family or anti-family, unless the meaning of the word family radically changed when I wasn't looking!

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A-and it it is unacceptable to call a group which glorifies rape, torture and murder "animals" but I'd be "mildly happy" if someone stabbed those who are "deserving of critique"

[Starlight]

Ah. You being stoned would explain a lot of your posts. Especially that one.

[rogue06]

Ah. You being stoned would explain a lot of your posts. Especially that one.

I pray that you were merely too stoned to realize what you said when you talk about being "mildly happy" if some of those you disagree with were stabbed -- while getting upset when an ultra-violent gang is referred to as "animals"

I pray that you were merely too stoned to realize what you said when you get upset when indigenous people kill some whales while declaring that parents should have the right to murder their children even several weeks if not months after they're born.

[Starlight]

I've never done any recreational drugs of any kind. And you can stick your insincere and offensive pretend prayers where the sun doesn't shine.

[Cow Poke]

I've never done any recreational drugs of any kind. And you can stick your insincere and offensive pretend prayers where the sun doesn't shine.

Wow, we thought at least you'd have that excuse for being so twisted and messed up!

[rogue06]

Wow, we thought at least you'd have that excuse for being so twisted and messed up!

Maybe he is one of those rare cases where being stoned would actually help him not be so twisted and messed up

[Cow Poke]

Maybe he is one of those rare cases where being stoned would actually help him not be so twisted and messed up

I want to believe he's not really that screwed up in the head in real life - that he's only doing that cause he's a troll and wants to get a rise out of everybody. I WANT to believe that, but I think there's too much evidence to the contrary.

[Starlight]

Wow, we thought at least you'd have that excuse for being so twisted and messed up!

The really sad thing about you guys in this forum, is that yes, you really are that out of your minds that you see me as the one who's 'twisted and messed up'.

Listed any of those pro-family polices yet btw? Realized there are none yet?

[Cow Poke]

The really sad thing about you guys in this forum, is that yes, you really are that out of your minds that you see me as the one who's 'twisted and messed up'.

That's what all of the inmates say.

[lilpixieofterror]

The really sad thing about you guys in this forum, is that yes, you really are that out of your minds that you see me as the one who's 'twisted and messed up'.

Listed any of those pro-family polices yet btw? Realized there are none yet?

Anyone else find it entertaining that a supporter of infanticide attacks consertives as being ‘anti family?’ Lack of self awareness in this one is strong.